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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 02:27 PM
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pardon my newbie-ness but can someone please tell me what car is the B16A engine from ??
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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That's what I want to know too.
I want to know about the SiR1.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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jdm crx sir or a integra xsi or something like that i think its xsi i know its something with an X...those are 1st gen...and we all know the del sol vtec has em and so does the 99-00 civic si they are sirII
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 03:03 PM
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Does the US have b-16 SiR1 Del Sol's?
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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From the best of my knowledge:

The b16a (gen 1) appeared in the JDM Civic/CRX SiR in 90 and 91. The integra XSI/RSI also had the same b16. At the same time, the Euro Civic/CRX VTi got a b16(a1), but it was only rated at 150hp. US didn't get the b16 until the b16a3 appeared in the 94-97 Del Sol vtec. It is also found as the b16a2 in the 99-00 Civic Si. The b16a second generation was found in the Civic SiR II and probably the CRX (Del Sol) in 92-95 in Japan. The second generation was rated at 170hp. Correct me if I'm wrong.




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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 05:20 PM
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If the engine says B16A with no numbers atthe end it is a JDM engine, therefore it came in the SiR and Integra Xsi also....
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 06:13 PM
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[QUOTE]From the best of my knowledge:

The b16a (gen 1) appeared in the JDM Civic/CRX SiR in 90 and 91. The integra XSI/RSI also had the same b16. At the same time, the Euro Civic/CRX VTi got a b16(a1), but it was only rated at 150hp. US didn't get the b16 until the b16a3 appeared in the 94-97 Del Sol vtec. It is also found as the b16a2 in the 99-00 Civic Si. The b16a second generation was found in the Civic SiR II and probably the CRX (Del Sol) in 92-95 in Japan. The second generation was rated at 170hp. Correct me if I'm wrong.


you are correct Sir!
As a side note, you can tell which car the JDM 1st gen B16 came out of by looking at the intake manifold.
The integra Xsi has extra vacuum fittings on the front, whereas the CRX SiR did not have those vacuum fitings.

Here is a picture of a CRX SiR intake manifold. Notice the three bumps on the manifold between the intake manifold opening and the PCV valve hose.
On the integra manifold, there are a few things bolted to that.
Another thing to tell them appart is the transmission.
Only the CRX SiR came with the Y1 transmission (LSD and non LSD)
the integras came with either S1, YS1, J1 and a few other that escape me now.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 07:02 PM
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From the best of my knowledge:

The b16a (gen 1) appeared in the JDM Civic/CRX SiR in 90 and 91. The integra XSI/RSI also had the same b16. At the same time, the Euro Civic/CRX VTi got a b16(a1), but it was only rated at 150hp. US didn't get the b16 until the b16a3 appeared in the 94-97 Del Sol vtec. It is also found as the b16a2 in the 99-00 Civic Si. The b16a second generation was found in the Civic SiR II and probably the CRX (Del Sol) in 92-95 in Japan. The second generation was rated at 170hp. Correct me if I'm wrong.


you are correct Sir!
As a side note, you can tell which car the JDM 1st gen B16 came out of by looking at the intake manifold.
The integra Xsi has extra vacuum fittings on the front, whereas the CRX SiR did not have those vacuum fitings.

Here is a picture of a CRX SiR intake manifold. Notice the three bumps on the manifold between the intake manifold opening and the PCV valve hose.
On the integra manifold, there are a few things bolted to that.
Another thing to tell them appart is the transmission.
Only the CRX SiR came with the Y1 transmission (LSD and non LSD)
the integras came with either S1, YS1, J1 and a few other that escape me now.


On the SiR's, the intake mani doesn't have the stamp that the 1g does...

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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 07:22 PM
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From the best of my knowledge:

The b16a (gen 1) appeared in the JDM Civic/CRX SiR in 90 and 91. The integra XSI/RSI also had the same b16. At the same time, the Euro Civic/CRX VTi got a b16(a1), but it was only rated at 150hp. US didn't get the b16 until the b16a3 appeared in the 94-97 Del Sol vtec. It is also found as the b16a2 in the 99-00 Civic Si. The b16a second generation was found in the Civic SiR II and probably the CRX (Del Sol) in 92-95 in Japan. The second generation was rated at 170hp.
According to Hondatuning magazine the B16A1 is rated at 158hp to the flywheel.
I have seen that some places rate the b16a2 @ 170 to the fly, dunno how correct that is.

the integras came with either S1, YS1, J1 and a few other that escape me now.
the 90-91 xsi & rsi came with S1, A1,& J1. the 92-93's came with JDM YS1 with opt. LSD.

What I have always wondered is why the delsols which were produced from 94-97 came with variation 3, while the 99-00 si's came with variation 2? why 3 before 2?


[Modified by incubus, 11:23 PM 11/26/2002]
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 07:26 AM
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Just to clear up a little, the B16A (JDM) is rated at 158bhp, the B16A1 (EDM) is rated at 150bhp and came in the Civic/CRX VT (no "i").
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 07:27 AM
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thanx ya'll for all the help.. ive been lookin for a crx for awhile now and i found one just yesterday....90 crx with a b16a with 60k miles on it. how much do u people think i should pay for it?? it's also in good condition (few dings and dents)
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 07:31 AM
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you can also tell by the serial number on the block.. starts with a 5 it's integra.. starts with 1 its sir. but i probably have those switched around
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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I'd say between 4-5K. It depends on the condition of the car, mods, and how good the engine is. I'd do a compression test to see how strong the engine still is. People rag out the B16 all the time.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 07:45 AM
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From the best of my knowledge:

The b16a (gen 1) appeared in the JDM Civic/CRX SiR in 90 and 91. The integra XSI/RSI also had the same b16. At the same time, the Euro Civic/CRX VTi got a b16(a1), but it was only rated at 150hp. US didn't get the b16 until the b16a3 appeared in the 94-97 Del Sol vtec. It is also found as the b16a2 in the 99-00 Civic Si. The b16a second generation was found in the Civic SiR II and probably the CRX (Del Sol) in 92-95 in Japan. The second generation was rated at 170hp. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Modified by ricodemus, 7:23 PM 11/26/2002]
We got practically a b16a in the form of the b17a in the 92-93 Integra GS-R's
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 07:46 AM
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People rag out the B16 all the time.
I'll 2nd that... People don't have DOHC VTEC in that small of a car for ***** and giggles. From what other people have seen (And me seeing my B16 when I got it), they're not always "babied"

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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 08:07 AM
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the si del sol has an d16z6 sohc vtec motor the "DEL SOL VTEC" has the b16a2
the 99+ civic si coupe are the only car's mass produced to the usa that came with an 1.6 dovc vtec
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 08:34 AM
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Actually Del Sol VTEC's came with two different B16's. The B16A2 and B16A3. One was the obd1 B16 (a3) and the other was the obd2 B16 (a2) which is the same as the 99-00 Si motor.

Also the block numbers on the JDM B16 (either 1 or 5 million) doesn't mean it was out of any particular car, it's just a revised edition of the motor. 5-million motors are post 90 I believe and can be found on 92-93 OBD-1 motors also.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 09:56 AM
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Also the block numbers on the JDM B16 (either 1 or 5 million) doesn't mean it was out of any particular car, it's just a revised edition of the motor. 5-million motors are post 90 I believe and can be found on 92-93 OBD-1 motors also.
Uh no, they were right - 1 million series = Integra, 5 million series= CRX SiR. My brother has a teggy 1 million series B16 and it's out of a 91 Xsi, whereas my 5 million series B16 is out of a 90 CRX SiR.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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Also the block numbers on the JDM B16 (either 1 or 5 million) doesn't mean it was out of any particular car, it's just a revised edition of the motor. 5-million motors are post 90 I believe and can be found on 92-93 OBD-1 motors also.

Uh no, they were right - 1 million series = Integra, 5 million series= CRX SiR. My brother has a teggy 1 million series B16 and it's out of a 91 Xsi, whereas my 5 million series B16 is out of a 90 CRX SiR.
And I have a obd-1 5-million series B16 out of a 93 Civic SIR.



It's hard to see the number, but some 92-93 B16's in the civic and integras had 5-million series engines.
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