i gotta quote for the autopower rollbar for $270 plus shipping and will be about 3-6 weeks to manufacture than ship. however this is the non DOM material and made of the ERW. i was talking to REID and according to him the DOM will be standard soon for scca regulations. the Kirk i got quote for $315 plus shipping but only 2 weeks to manufacture and deliver. i like the design of the kirk better and i get to keep my speakers. should i save money and wait a while for AP or pay a little bit more for quicker delivery?

 

i'd personally get the AP. only because i still want a trunk

 

does anybody have pictures of the kirk setup?

 

Dave-R0R does. He spams them everywhere.

 

HOW ABOUT PICS OF BOTH.

 

mmmk
Autopower 4-pt.







[Modified by sackdz, 9:58 AM 11/26/2002]

 

YOURS??

ANYMORE?? CAN IT FIT WITH AN INTERIOR?

 

Yea, and yea.

Why'd this post get locked?

 

shouldn't the harness be on the lower bar?

 

Yea, it's an old pic, thanks though.

 

Personally, i wouldn't worry about it being DOM/ERW or whatever, b/c if you're trying to comply with SCCA regulations, you'll need a hell of lot more than a 4 point roll bar to comply. Get the autopower. it works well, fits well, and you have a trunk left

 

I would go with the Kirk over the autopower, the overall Quality of the Kirk is better imho, plus Mark Stewart (Owner) is a hell of a guy . BTW Mention the Wrek @ Vir they had in thier RX7's and see what happens.

 

thx for all the replies guys, looks like it's pretty even. hmm this thread got locked? wonder why it was...and also i never put the (*)(*) option in there, how'd that get there? oh well, guess some admin is having fun with me

 

http://sandmracing.com/

check upgrades&mods(safety)


[Modified by GONG SHOW, 12:13 PM 11/26/2002]

 

YEAH THATS IT. DAMN ADMIN. YOU PERVERT.


[Modified by REDNECK TYPE-R, 12:12 PM 11/26/2002]

 

The only reason that I don't like the Kirk is that it mounts to the crumple zones in the rear, whereas the autopower mounts the wheel wells. I feel that the Autopower would give you higher structural stiffening due to where the points mount, and the shorter bars that would have less flex, but I'm not an engineer, so I can't give you actual proof to my thoughts, but I still like the Autopower over the Kirk, Chris(6 point) and Bob#455(4 point) have kirks, and Iggy(4 point) has an Autopower.

If you're on a time constraint and need something go with the Kirk as they have excellent response time when building and delivering their product, if you don't care about the wait go with the Autopower, although Iggy had his in ~4 weeks.

Austin

 

Awwww, c'mon guys, where's the love? I tried to do this before. Here's my bigass Autopower vs. Kirk thread, since I've used both:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=198856

Hope it helps.

 

I got the Autopower over the Kirk for one main reason and that was to still allow the use of my rear seats. Later after comparing the two (the one on Bob#455) I noticed that you do not have truck space left.

Pro's and Cons in my opinion.

Autopower:
Pro:
1. Keep use of rear seats. If you have rear passengers they can still ride if you have removable cross bars.
2. Keep your trunk space.
Con's:
1. No rear speakers.

Kirk:
Cons:
1. No use of rear seats.
2. No trunk space.

Although I did not comment on stiffness, I don't think ether is better than the other. They both provide roll protection and that is their main purpose. the rest it up to personal choice. I was told to wait 5-6 weeks and I got it in half the time.
It is really personal preference.


[Modified by IGGY, 5:50 PM 11/26/2002]

 

ANY rollbar makes putting passengers in the rear seats a bad choice.

 

that autopower looks really nice.

 

It'll look much better once I attack it with some BBQ grill paint.

 

make it hot pink


edit- looking at sackdz's pictures.. i guess the AP rollbar doesn't negate the use of a rear strut tower bar does it?


[Modified by disordeR, 6:04 PM 11/26/2002]

 

no trunk space?!?!

-Dave, who has had tons of chit in his hatch area with his old kirk cage

 

You CAN keep the rear speakers with the AP bar. I have it, and i have them, just a quick trim of a small useless tab on the speaker bracket, and ta-da.

 

I've been thinking about investing in one of these. Are they street legal?