.....for some reason, I always thought the s2k was a 13 second car out of the box.

Itr = high 14's...

Well my buddy with jun 3's, i/h/e, chipped ecu (low 190's whp) is outrunning his friend's bolt-on s2k with no problems...

WTF?!

 

It's hard to get good times in the S2K, from what I have heard. It can do a 13.8 I think stock but most people only get them to run 14.0-14.5. I guess it's hard to make it hook-up

 

sounds about right - 190whp is more than enough to pass s2000+minor bolt-ons

 

Fastest I have seen a stock S2k at the strip is 14.5. I have never seen them lay down good numbers!


[Modified by Smitdog, 8:02 PM 11/23/2002]

 

It's the combination of very little torque at low engine speeds and the greater traction of its RWD layout that causes the S2000 to disappoint at the dragstrip.

The engine hasn't got enough torque to overcome the grip, so it typically bogs at launch. It wouldn't hurt if it weighed less, but at 2800+ lbs. it really needs more torque.

Although it seems counter intuitive, the ITR's FWD layout is actually an advantage with the characteristics of the B-series' torque delivery. The lack of traction allows the engine to get into the fatter part of the powerband without an abusively high-rpm clutch drop.

 

well said.

 

I'm almost positive I'm faster than my friends S2000 since my friends chipped Passat can hang with him and I can walk the Passat pretty hard. My car is a freak though so ignore me.

 

the type r can never loose!!

 

What are u talking about..it is a rear wheeld drive car...it will grip much easier compaired to a ITR with front wheel drive.

 

I was neck in neck up to the top of third with a friends S2k with I/E, i have crappy bolt ons, 170whp.

so a cammed ITR should definately roll a bolt on s2000


[Modified by Rob :190:, 4:36 PM 11/23/2002]

 

Just don't ask this question on the S2K board. They seem to be in denial about the drag capabilities of their cars...

 

It's the combination of very little torque at low engine speeds and the greater traction of its RWD layout that causes the S2000 to disappoint at the dragstrip.
The engine hasn't got enough torque to overcome the grip, so it typically bogs at launch. It wouldn't hurt if it weighed less, but at 2800+ lbs. it really needs more torque.

Although it seems counter intuitive, the ITR's FWD layout is actually an advantage with the characteristics of the B-series' torque delivery. The lack of traction allows the engine to get into the fatter part of the powerband without an abusively high-rpm clutch drop.

-MK Ultra


[Modified by Type R, 1:42 PM 11/23/2002]

 

this thread makes me sad

ive been walked by an itr before he only had a header/testpipe/stock catback exhaust

i thought it was my crappy driving, i guess its the cars too

 

I've seen a stock S2K run 14.2 @ the track... again, bone stock.

 

At the strip I saw a 13.6 s2k with a supercharger and s-02/3 tires.

 

i ran 14.6 stock, so i guess its partly my driving

Got Traction?

 

I saw stock go 14.1. Not to bad.

 

I've seen both cars do low 14's stock...... who knows, driving conditions and how well they "hook it up"......

 

hehe me too i ran 14.6/98 or 97 with i/h/e and SHITTY tire. spinning all thru 1st gear and 1/2 2nd gear

 

btw i was driving a S2K


[Modified by SilverS, 5:32 PM 11/23/2002]

 

MOST interesting.. guess theres alot more to it than just which is FWD and RWD.

 

my 2L teg eats s2k all day on the track and on the highway, so its no suprise that a 190whp itr is beating the s2k. my 2L is 220whp and 152ft lbs and its really no comparison. what i want to see is an s2k with all the new toda goodies available and what it can do.

 

ive seen a stock one go 13.8 thats the best i have seen bone stock
i knew the driver
i guess it was a perfect day

 

cousin has a 2001 s2k, ran a 13.8 at MIR last winter. completely stock and hes a damn good driver. stock for stock, the s2k will win.

 

A friend of mine with a B20 vtec four door teg waxed a s2k on the interstate from a 70 mph roll. The teg used a 75 shot to do it however.