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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 07:21 PM
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Ok i havent had my prelude long and its the first standard transmission ive ever driven. I was wondering what exactly speed shifting is and how you do it. Someone please explain!!!
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 07:35 PM
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shifting without the clutch or shifting with gas to the floor. different connotations for different fast and furious fans. no need to do it. dont worry about it.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 08:10 PM
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shifting without the clutch or shifting with gas to the floor. different connotations for different fast and furious fans. no need to do it. dont worry about it.
yeah, no point really... people (ricers) make a big deal out of it eventhough i doubt they even know what it means. but yeah, don't do it.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 09:02 PM
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It might make it easier to chirp gears, giving the sensation of speed, but in reality, will cost you traction, speed, and not to mention ALOT of stress on the drivetrain.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 09:49 PM
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Some goon at a speed shop told me that the prelue tranny can't speed shift because its a hydraulic setup. Does this have any truth to it? He was acting like preludes are slow because you can't speed shift.
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 12:22 AM
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He was acting like preludes are slow because you can't speed shift.

....should of slap him!
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 06:50 AM
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I can speed shift mine.
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 07:03 AM
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Default Re: Speed Shifting (Wont be beat)

I know Todd had to speed shift his .. . but only because his second gear syncro was not quite right
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 07:10 AM
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i tried it a couple times, i guess i wasn't in the right RPM range and it never really worked, so i stopped trying for fear of tearing something up..... now my teg is a different story...
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 08:34 AM
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Speed shifting: Shifting using the clutch but not letting off the gas. You have to have a pretty short shifter to do this, plus you'll have to shift at a slightly lower RPM than you would with a regular shift since the engine will revv up quickly between gears.

Power shifting: Shifting without using the clutch. Extremely bad for your car, and you WILL end up breaking something.
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 08:39 AM
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regardless of what speed shifting exactly is it is not meant to be done ina stock car, they build race transmissions that can handle the speed shifting and some stupid ricer thought they would be faster because that's what the racers do. No, don't not speed shift, double clutch, power shift, turn left, etc.(you get the point)
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 08:41 AM
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So what is it called when you let off the gas, depress the clutch, but then get back on the gas just before you release the clutch?
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 09:11 AM
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Default Re: Speed Shifting (Wont be beat)

Wont be beat: if you blip the throttle to get the revs up before disengaging the clutch, its heel-toeing.
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 09:16 AM
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that's if your downshifting.. (the heal-toe), but otherwise it's called "shifting" heh
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 09:20 AM
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Ok, now I'm thoroughly confuzzled.

I'm talking about accelerating, not course racing and downshifting.

A proper shift is as follows:
Throttle, let off throttle, engage clutch, shift, disengage clutch, enage throttle.

So what is this:
Throttle, let off throttle, engine clutch, engine partial throttle, disengage clutch, fully engage throttle.
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 09:38 AM
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Default Re: Speed Shifting (H22A_pOwer)

He was acting like preludes are slow because you can't speed shift.


....should of slap him!
I know...I can't believe i took my car there This was the head guy at Thunder Alley in San Jose
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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Default Re: Speed Shifting (Wont be beat)

when i drive it's more push clutch/let off gas at same time as pulling out of gear, clutch is in all the way right as it's about to go into gear, push gas/release clutch at same time
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 11:16 AM
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So what is this:
Throttle, let off throttle, engine clutch, engine partial throttle, disengage clutch, fully engage throttle.
Thats what I'd call shifting while feeding the clutch I guess. I don't think there is any real benefit that is worth the extra stress on your car. I did it a few times when I was learning by accident because I couldn't get the timing right then.

I have a question of my own, is it worse for the clutch to rev match when downshifting, I'm not talking about heel-toeing or double clutching, just blipping the throttle without engaging the break. Or should I just let the revs drop and come back up as I clutch out. I know blipping is alot smoother, but is it better?
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 11:24 AM
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Default Re: Speed Shifting (piotrush)

So whats 'blipping' the throttle.

I dont know, up and down shifting to me feels natural even though I'm not sure what the technical aspect is of what I'm doing exactly. I've only been driving a manual tranny for like 3 weeks now.
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 11:46 AM
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Speed shifting: Shifting using the clutch but not letting off the gas. You have to have a pretty short shifter to do this, plus you'll have to shift at a slightly lower RPM than you would with a regular shift since the engine will revv up quickly between gears.

Power shifting: Shifting without using the clutch. Extremely bad for your car, and you WILL end up breaking something.
i call that a full throttle shift, when i think of speed shifting, or power shifting, it's when you shift gears without even using the clutch
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 11:53 AM
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Default Re: Speed Shifting (illusion)

shifting without the clutch
that is power shifting not speed shifting. check out this thread.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=330847
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