Lots of fuel into oil pan
Looking for insight on what to check. I have an excessive amount of fuel into my oil pan to the point it blows oil pan gaskets. 2002 2.3 with 160k miles. It can make it about 30 minutes on a fresh gasket and oil change before it pressurizes blows it out and dumps oil everywhere. I think this is to much fuel to be rings but I’ll start with compression test. What other things should I check? Injectors and fuel pressure regulator are what Google said but I want to ask people who actually have experience with this
Looking for insight on what to check. I have an excessive amount of fuel into my oil pan to the point it blows oil pan gaskets. 2002 2.3 with 160k miles. It can make it about 30 minutes on a fresh gasket and oil change before it pressurizes blows it out and dumps oil everywhere. I think this is to much fuel to be rings but I’ll start with compression test. What other things should I check? Injectors and fuel pressure regulator are what Google said but I want to ask people who actually have experience with this
What was the reason you haven't mentioned the system intended to relieve crankcase pressure: Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) Valve?
Connect the dots. You suspect excessive fuel does what exactly to your oil pan gasket? You never mentioned measuring an increase in oil volume.
What was the reason you haven't mentioned the system intended to relieve crankcase pressure: Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) Valve?
What was the reason you haven't mentioned the system intended to relieve crankcase pressure: Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) Valve?
Based on what you have posted......
If this were my car, I would get a scan tool and see exactly what the MAP sensor and Coolant Temp Sensor readings are. To my knowledge, these values are what the engine computer uses to know how long to ground the fuel injectors.
Based on this info, you can go in various directions........If the sensor values looks OK. I would recheck for excessive blow-by by moving the oil cap. If all this checks out, for some reason the fuel injectors are either being told by the computer to be "open" or....."logically" they are stuck open and dumping fuel past the rings. When/If it is running, black smoke should be coming out the exhaust from so much fuel.
If all this and everything checks out......I can't see how else or otherwise fuel is getting into the oil pan......It is beyond my base of knowledge.
If this were my car, I would get a scan tool and see exactly what the MAP sensor and Coolant Temp Sensor readings are. To my knowledge, these values are what the engine computer uses to know how long to ground the fuel injectors.
Based on this info, you can go in various directions........If the sensor values looks OK. I would recheck for excessive blow-by by moving the oil cap. If all this checks out, for some reason the fuel injectors are either being told by the computer to be "open" or....."logically" they are stuck open and dumping fuel past the rings. When/If it is running, black smoke should be coming out the exhaust from so much fuel.
If all this and everything checks out......I can't see how else or otherwise fuel is getting into the oil pan......It is beyond my base of knowledge.
Based on what you have posted......
If this were my car, I would get a scan tool and see exactly what the MAP sensor and Coolant Temp Sensor readings are. To my knowledge, these values are what the engine computer uses to know how long to ground the fuel injectors.
Based on this info, you can go in various directions........If the sensor values looks OK. I would recheck for excessive blow-by by moving the oil cap. If all this checks out, for some reason the fuel injectors are either being told by the computer to be "open" or....."logically" they are stuck open and dumping fuel past the rings. When/If it is running, black smoke should be coming out the exhaust from so much fuel.
If all this and everything checks out......I can't see how else or otherwise fuel is getting into the oil pan......It is beyond my base of knowledge.
If this were my car, I would get a scan tool and see exactly what the MAP sensor and Coolant Temp Sensor readings are. To my knowledge, these values are what the engine computer uses to know how long to ground the fuel injectors.
Based on this info, you can go in various directions........If the sensor values looks OK. I would recheck for excessive blow-by by moving the oil cap. If all this checks out, for some reason the fuel injectors are either being told by the computer to be "open" or....."logically" they are stuck open and dumping fuel past the rings. When/If it is running, black smoke should be coming out the exhaust from so much fuel.
If all this and everything checks out......I can't see how else or otherwise fuel is getting into the oil pan......It is beyond my base of knowledge.
Looking for insight on what to check. I have an excessive amount of fuel into my oil pan to the point it blows oil pan gaskets. 2002 2.3 with 160k miles. It can make it about 30 minutes on a fresh gasket and oil change before it pressurizes blows it out and dumps oil everywhere. I think this is to much fuel to be rings but I’ll start with compression test. What other things should I check? Injectors and fuel pressure regulator are what Google said but I want to ask people who actually have experience with this
I will be brining injectors into a shop to have them test them, I hooked them up to a battery and they all clicked on and off, did not appear to be stuck open.
anything I am missing here on the fuel side of things? Anything else to check, possibly something to do with air? Any ideas feel free to comment.
It's not injectors. Compression on cylinder #1 is a little low and might be caused by a loose ring pack resulting in blow-by, which could be building up pressure in the crankcase. A properly working PCV system should handle that no problem. Has the oil leaked again after changing the PCV valve? Is the hose clear inside? And how are you making sure it is the oil pan gasket and not the other oil seals like a crank or balancer shaft?
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It's not injectors. Compression on cylinder #1 is a little low and might be caused by a loose ring pack resulting in blow-by, which could be building up pressure in the crankcase. A properly working PCV system should handle that no problem. Has the oil leaked again after changing the PCV valve? Is the hose clear inside? And how are you making sure it is the oil pan gasket and not the other oil seals like a crank or balancer shaft?
Disconnect the O2 plug and see if the engine runs better, CEL will be on, but if the O2 is damaged it and runs better then it would be best to just run it in open loop rather than pig rich closed.
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