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Car: 1999 Honda Accord EX (5-speed)
ECU: P28 — all capacitors replaced, J12 removed, and J1 jumped
S300v3 serial: 67277
Mods: Ghost key push button from Jordan Distributions, eBay cold air intake, full speaker system (removed for testing), 3-to-2-wire IACV conversion with Rosko conversion plate
1. Symptoms / History
Installed S300v3 onto the P28 and initially uploaded my tune — S300 was turning on (not sure if sensors were reading).
When finishing the installation of the 3-to-2-wire conversion, the S300 showed no live data. At that time D3/D4 (green) were lit but D2 rapidly flashed red.
I reseated the S300v3 a few times to make sure it was correct; now when the S300 is hooked up it shows no lights at all.
Plugging my original stock ECU back in makes the car work normally (no issues).
Sent my ECU and S300v3 combo to be tested on an engine sim, which came back all good. Also, I had the P28 board switched out just in case.
2. What I’ve checked/measured (measurements taken at the OBD1 ECU connector side of conversion harness):
2.a. Baseline (ECU unplugged):
A25 (IGP2): 11.92 V (key ON)
B1 (IGP1): 11.92 V (key ON)
A7 (fuel pump relay): 11.90 V key ON, drops to <0.4 V key OFF
D4 (SCS): ~-0.9 mV (I forgot what this should be but this is only testing if the ECU is initialized, I think)
2.d. ECU plugged in, TPS / MAP / IACV disconnected (Checked after each sensor removed and still no change):
A25: ~1.90 V ((should be ~12V))
B1: ~1.88 V (should be ~12V)
D19/D20 remain near 0 V (should be ~5V)
D4 measured ~8.9 mV and slowly increasing to >22 mV if probe left in pin (odd behavior)
2.e. Connector isolation:
Plugging Connector A (only) → A25/B1 collapse to ~1.8–2.0 V and constant CEL.
Plugging Connector B (only) → A25/B1 collapse to ~1.8–2.0 V and no CEL.
Plugging Connector D (only) → A25/B1 remain ~11.9 V (no collapse).
With ECU unplugged, A25/B1 read ~11.9 V (so vehicle/harness switched feed is fine until ECU is inserted).
2.f. Fuse & relay checks:
ECU fuse (driver panel): 12.19 V both sides (battery and load side)
Fuel pump fuse (driver panel): 12.18 V both sides
IGN1 relay continuity OK; replaced both fuses and the 7.5A for clock backup in passenger side panel — did not fix the issue.
3. Other notes:
Wiggle-testing the harness/connector at A25 didn’t change the low voltage significantly.
My multimeter is a cheap one from Amazon so it could be slightly off but from what I can see that isn't the issue.
I've tried some of these tests with the S300V3 installed and removed but still got the same issues.
4. What this data shows / my current conclusion
The harness and vehicle switched feeds are good (A25/B1 read ~12 V when ECU is unplugged).
When the P28 is plugged in, A25/B1 collapse to ~2 V and the ECU 5 V rails (D19/D20) sit near 0 V — the P28 is not powering up its internal 5 V rails in-circuit.
The collapse happens when either connector A or connector B is plugged into the ECU (connector D alone does not cause the collapse). That localizes the problem to something tied into pins present on A and B (power distribution/components near connector A/B on the board).
Grounds are good and fuses/relays appear fine,so the load is being introduced by the ECU or something that only connects when the ECU is mated to the harness.
This strongly points to an internal ECU fault (power regulator, shorted pass device, shorted diode/MOSFET, bad cap, or a connector/pad problem on the P28 board).
5. What I’ve tried already (recap):
Checked & replaced fuses (ECU, fuel pump) and reseated/swapped relays
Unplugged TPS, MAP, IACV (no change)
Removed S300 when testing the ECU (no change)
Confirmed grounds and harness continuity for VCC / sensor ground rails
6. Planned next steps (DIY repair path)
Open ECU and inspect PCB around connector A/B and the power regulation area (looking for lifted pads, cold joints, heat damage, bulging caps, solder bridges).
Do diode/continuity testing on board traces from A25/B1 to power components to find a low-ohm path to ground.
Use a series lamp (12 V incandescent), test off a battery with an inline fuse (5 A) to safely apply 12 V to the board and identify the hot/shorted component. I have a Sylvania 7443 bulb available for this.
Replace/repair the faulted SMT/THT part (likely regulator, diode, MOSFET, or cap) and re-test.
7. Questions to the community:
Has anyone seen a P28 behave like this (A25/B1 collapsing to ~2 V only when connector A or B is mated)?
Any suggestions for the most likely components to check first around Connector A/B on a P28?
If you have a common “spot” or part that fails on these boards after S300 installs, please share (photo/part number/repair tip appreciated).
This is the pinout diagram I'm using for all measurements (02D01720-1500 is the board in my ECU):
Car: 1999 Honda Accord EX (5-speed)
ECU: P28 — all capacitors replaced, J12 removed, and J1 jumped
S300v3 serial: 67277
Mods: Ghost key push button from Jordan Distributions, eBay cold air intake, full speaker system (removed for testing), 3-to-2-wire IACV conversion with Rosko conversion plate
1. Symptoms / History
Installed S300v3 onto the P28 and initially uploaded my tune — S300 was turning on (not sure if sensors were reading).
When finishing the installation of the 3-to-2-wire conversion, the S300 showed no live data. At that time D3/D4 (green) were lit but D2 rapidly flashed red.
I reseated the S300v3 a few times to make sure it was correct; now when the S300 is hooked up it shows no lights at all.
Plugging my original stock ECU back in makes the car work normally (no issues).
Sent my ECU and S300v3 combo to be tested on an engine sim, which came back all good. Also, I had the P28 board switched out just in case.
2. What I’ve checked/measured (measurements taken at the OBD1 ECU connector side of conversion harness):
2.a. Baseline (ECU unplugged):
A25 (IGP2): 11.92 V (key ON)
B1 (IGP1): 11.92 V (key ON)
A7 (fuel pump relay): 11.90 V key ON, drops to <0.4 V key OFF
D4 (SCS): ~-0.9 mV (I forgot what this should be but this is only testing if the ECU is initialized, I think)
2.d. ECU plugged in, TPS / MAP / IACV disconnected (Checked after each sensor removed and still no change):
A25: ~1.90 V ((should be ~12V))
B1: ~1.88 V (should be ~12V)
D19/D20 remain near 0 V (should be ~5V)
D4 measured ~8.9 mV and slowly increasing to >22 mV if probe left in pin (odd behavior)
2.e. Connector isolation:
Plugging Connector A (only) → A25/B1 collapse to ~1.8–2.0 V and constant CEL.
Plugging Connector B (only) → A25/B1 collapse to ~1.8–2.0 V and no CEL.
Plugging Connector D (only) → A25/B1 remain ~11.9 V (no collapse).
With ECU unplugged, A25/B1 read ~11.9 V (so vehicle/harness switched feed is fine until ECU is inserted).
2.f. Fuse & relay checks:
ECU fuse (driver panel): 12.19 V both sides (battery and load side)
Fuel pump fuse (driver panel): 12.18 V both sides
IGN1 relay continuity OK; replaced both fuses and the 7.5A for clock backup in passenger side panel — did not fix the issue.
3. Other notes:
Wiggle-testing the harness/connector at A25 didn’t change the low voltage significantly.
My multimeter is a cheap one from Amazon so it could be slightly off but from what I can see that isn't the issue.
I've tried some of these tests with the S300V3 installed and removed but still got the same issues.
4. What this data shows / my current conclusion
The harness and vehicle switched feeds are good (A25/B1 read ~12 V when ECU is unplugged).
When the P28 is plugged in, A25/B1 collapse to ~2 V and the ECU 5 V rails (D19/D20) sit near 0 V — the P28 is not powering up its internal 5 V rails in-circuit.
The collapse happens when either connector A or connector B is plugged into the ECU (connector D alone does not cause the collapse). That localizes the problem to something tied into pins present on A and B (power distribution/components near connector A/B on the board).
Grounds are good and fuses/relays appear fine,so the load is being introduced by the ECU or something that only connects when the ECU is mated to the harness.
This strongly points to an internal ECU fault (power regulator, shorted pass device, shorted diode/MOSFET, bad cap, or a connector/pad problem on the P28 board).
5. What I’ve tried already (recap):
Checked & replaced fuses (ECU, fuel pump) and reseated/swapped relays
Unplugged TPS, MAP, IACV (no change)
Removed S300 when testing the ECU (no change)
Confirmed grounds and harness continuity for VCC / sensor ground rails
6. Planned next steps (DIY repair path)
Open ECU and inspect PCB around connector A/B and the power regulation area (looking for lifted pads, cold joints, heat damage, bulging caps, solder bridges).
Do diode/continuity testing on board traces from A25/B1 to power components to find a low-ohm path to ground.
Use a series lamp (12 V incandescent), test off a battery with an inline fuse (5 A) to safely apply 12 V to the board and identify the hot/shorted component. I have a Sylvania 7443 bulb available for this.
Replace/repair the faulted SMT/THT part (likely regulator, diode, MOSFET, or cap) and re-test.
7. Questions to the community:
Has anyone seen a P28 behave like this (A25/B1 collapsing to ~2 V only when connector A or B is mated)?
Any suggestions for the most likely components to check first around Connector A/B on a P28?
If you have a common “spot” or part that fails on these boards after S300 installs, please share (photo/part number/repair tip appreciated).
This is the pinout diagram I'm using for all measurements (02D01720-1500 is the board in my ECU):
I have no personal experience with this ECM setup/mod, so wait for further information from those who do, BUT,
As someone who manufactures Class 2 and 3 electronics, if the ECM tested good, you have shorts somewhere in the A or B plug harnesses, or something is not connected properly on those one or two harnesses. That's the common denominator.
Process of elimination using the information you have provided. That's where I would look while you await input from others with specific experience in this case.
I have no personal experience with this ECM setup/mod, so wait for further information from those who do, BUT,
As someone who manufactures Class 2 and 3 electronics, if the ECM tested good, you have shorts somewhere in the A or B plug harnesses, or something is not connected properly on those one or two harnesses. That's the common denominator.
Process of elimination using the information you have provided. That's where I would look while you await input from others with specific experience in this case.
You are exactly right, I found a short in one inside the car. Took me a few hours of testing but the wire goes from the main relay to connector B. I currently have my dash out and I'm undoing my wiring harness to figure out what wire I need to replace.
You are exactly right, I found a short in one inside the car. Took me a few hours of testing but the wire goes from the main relay to connector B. I currently have my dash out and I'm undoing my wiring harness to figure out what wire I need to replace.
Good stuff.
Since the main relay essentially is connected to both the A and B harnesses, chances are fixing the short in the B harness will be enough, but it wouldn't hurt to check through the A harness while you're in there.