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I was talking w/ Steve at HMotors Online and he just straight up said I cannot use a B series air flow tube w/ an EG air box as the Integra air flow tubes connect to a cone filter in the air box.
I asked him if the GSR/B18C1 air tube would clear my ABS?
He did not know...
After I got off the phone, I thought about the del Sol B16? This has been the go-to for so many parts that make this work.
B series del Sols did have ABS as well...
Any ideas if this would work? I don't know the sizes of B16 VTEC vs B18 VTEC TB off the top of my head...
I've been using the IceBox for literally decades. It's great and sounds nice to boot.
You should also be able to use a DC Integra airbox in there, and it should clear your ABS unit too.
ITR air tube will not work with the GS-R intake due to its low location, but the GS-R air tube will work with the IceBox or DC airbox (obviously). The CT filter and adapter are a plug & play replacement for the OE Integra paper cone filter too.
Okay after looking at photos of GSRs with aftermarket intakes, I now get the concern over ABS. I didn't realize the throttle body was so far down there. I thought you were worried about the airbox being next to the ABS fusebox.
What I personally would attempt, is to cobble together an intake to meet up to a stock eg airbox. Doing this with a GSR will require 2 separate 3" pipes with bends cut to length. 2 3" couplers, and one 3"-to-2.x" reducer to match your throttle body. This will give you the freedom to match up the 2 parts at any angle. Basically try to recreate this injen GSR pipe from two separate pieces.
Then you could spray paint it satin black to blend in. You will also need a Vibrant 2895 vacuum hose fitting to run the fresh air hose to your valve cover. Personally use cheap crystal clear vinyl tubing for the connecting hose to watch for oil.
If you really want to get fancy you could buy a couple 3" carbon fiber elbows off Amazon to do this. That's sorta what I did:
This is mine made from a repurposed Carbonio/APR VW MK4 Golf intake tube. Funny thing was that flex coupler at the airbox was sent to me by mistake when I ordered the reducer. No mistakes.......just happy accidents.
I've been using the IceBox for literally decades. It's great and sounds nice to boot.
You should also be able to use a DC Integra airbox in there, and it should clear your ABS unit too.
ITR air tube will not work with the GS-R intake due to its low location, but the GS-R air tube will work with the IceBox or DC airbox (obviously). The CT filter and adapter are a plug & play replacement for the OE Integra paper cone filter too.
This is great info, thanks!
I don't know anything about your ride - are you running the CT icebox in an EG?
How does it mount? Is it a professional looking fit/finish? Does it draw air from the space between the bumper skin and fender liner?
Would you be willing to share any pics? It looks like it might sit where the DC air box sits. A pic would help me decide if I like the fit. I don't want to have to move the overflow tank or things like that.
And I am still wondering if the GS-R air tube will clear my ABS unit which sits below the battery on the pass side firewall.
Okay after looking at photos of GSRs with aftermarket intakes, I now get the concern over ABS. I didn't realize the throttle body was so far down there. I thought you were worried about the airbox being next to the ABS fusebox.
What I personally would attempt, is to cobble together an intake to meet up to a stock eg airbox. Doing this with a GSR will require 2 separate 3" pipes with bends cut to length. 2 3" couplers, and one 3"-to-2.x" reducer to match your throttle body. This will give you the freedom to match up the 2 parts at any angle. Basically try to recreate this injen GSR pipe from two separate pieces.
Then you could spray paint it satin black to blend in. You will also need a Vibrant 2895 vacuum hose fitting to run the fresh air hose to your valve cover. Personally use cheap crystal clear vinyl tubing for the connecting hose to watch for oil.
Thanks, yes, the GS-R TB is pretty darn low, so I don't have a lot of room btwn that and the ABS mechanicals that mount on the pass side firewall, below the battery.
Any concerns about airflow for a B18 (sctock) through a EG air box? Do you happen to know the outlet size of the EG airbox? I wish I still had the one that came with my car...
Air tube is going to be my trickiest part I feel, unless a stock GS-R will do the job and clear my ABS unit.
My airbox lid is 3" outlet. It's a P30 version so not sure about the P07 one. Never used the original airbox with an intake.
I also run both OEM and Denso paper filters with a B18C type R. I don't race and tend drive mild most of the time. Never noticed a lack of performance at WOT to red-line.
Couldn't tell you if the gsr tube would clear the abs unit. I don't have either. Getting the cheapest 3" EG intake might be a good start to testing out a custom cut tube. You don't even need to cut it. Just stick it down in there and see if the first bend clears the abs unit.
CX Racing makes a cheap $40 one that is black coated....
BTW it looks like the P07 lid has the same diameter outlet. Here's one connected to a P30 intake tube. Also it looks like the lower half of the airbox might still be available new: https://www.alldiscountparts.com/oem...er-17240p07000
You might even be able to use a 45° reducer coupler and cut it to the perfect fit. This will definitely add clearance below. Then you would only need 1 45° 3" tube....
Would you be willing to share any pics? It looks like it might sit where the DC air box sits. A pic would help me decide if I like the fit. I don't want to have to move the overflow tank or things like that.
And I am still wondering if the GS-R air tube will clear my ABS unit which sits below the battery on the pass side firewall.
Currently in my EJ6 sedan w/ B20 and P73 intake tube. I originally had it installed in my EJ1 with P72 intake and then later with P73. So can confirm it works with all configs. You just have to use the appropriate intake tube for whatever manifold you are using.
I currently have an ITR/P73 tube on there because I just smogged it but usually run an Amazon-special tube with foil wrap because the OE one won't stretch enough to fit over my larger throttle body. I have a black Injen short ram to install that is CARB-legal and will fit with the Icebox but I need to modify it to work with the Icebox filter/stack or run it with the less ideal Injen filter. Just haven't gotten around to it.
It has its own bracket set that mounts to holes that already exist in the chassis. There's one to the frame rail and one to the trans mount, then a third that uses one of the bolts for the tow hook down low.. It's not as nice as an OE airbox for sure, but it's as nice or nicer than most of the other aftermarket stuff out there. It has a snorkel with velocity stack on it that lives down in the area between the fender liner and front bumper.
Check this video out, looks like he's got some decent shots that will show how it's installed - I just thumbed through a little with no sound, so not sure just how detailed it might be:
I'm rusty on the ABS units - I know some were up on the frame rail ahead of the tower and some were down below the battery. Pretty sure later Integras (including GS-Rs) had the firewall mounted ones, no? I'm pretty sure you're good to go.
Only other issue I can think of is that, in my case at least, the original coolant overflow will not fit with the IceBox's fat snorkel and a thick-cored radiator (Koyo for me). I used an EF overflow and DC overflow bracket to get around it, looks like it should have been that way the whole time.
Integra didn't have the firewall ABS. Both versions of ABS had the system mounted next to the airbox. Also EKs have the AC pipes running differently along the chassis than EKs due to different airbox/resonator pathways. Something to be aware of when planning.
Yes, great reminder.... The Ref wanted me to use an OE Integra LS airbox and I had to demonstrate to him that it was a no-go with the AC lines on the EK chassis. You'll find lots of pics online of it fitting and then you realize they're all non-AC or RHD cars.
i used a GSR AEM cold air intake on my swap and it works well. i know its not airbox and tube but it is an option
I think the main concern with that is weather on not the intake pipe will interfere with the EG's large ABS module mounted just below the battery. It's very close to the GSR throttle body.
My airbox lid is 3" outlet. It's a P30 version so not sure about the P07 one. Never used the original airbox with an intake.
I also run both OEM and Denso paper filters with a B18C type R. I don't race and tend drive mild most of the time. Never noticed a lack of performance at WOT to red-line.
Couldn't tell you if the gsr tube would clear the abs unit. I don't have either. Getting the cheapest 3" EG intake might be a good start to testing out a custom cut tube. You don't even need to cut it. Just stick it down in there and see if the first bend clears the abs unit.
P30 looks like it was only used for '94-95 B series del Sol. In '96 they went to P07 for del Sol, and it was used on what looks like all 5th gen Civics.
I think I will go for that 45 degree reducer you found for me and see if I can get it to work with my existing air tube.
BTW it looks like the P07 lid has the same diameter outlet. Here's one connected to a P30 intake tube. Also it looks like the lower half of the airbox might still be available new: https://www.alldiscountparts.com/oem...er-17240p07000
So by this logic, both the P30 and P07 air box lid have a 3" outlet - excellent!!!
Thanks.
Currently in my EJ6 sedan w/ B20 and P73 intake tube. I originally had it installed in my EJ1 with P72 intake and then later with P73. So can confirm it works with all configs. You just have to use the appropriate intake tube for whatever manifold you are using.
I currently have an ITR/P73 tube on there because I just smogged it but usually run an Amazon-special tube with foil wrap because the OE one won't stretch enough to fit over my larger throttle body. I have a black Injen short ram to install that is CARB-legal and will fit with the Icebox but I need to modify it to work with the Icebox filter/stack or run it with the less ideal Injen filter. Just haven't gotten around to it.
It has its own bracket set that mounts to holes that already exist in the chassis. There's one to the frame rail and one to the trans mount, then a third that uses one of the bolts for the tow hook down low.. It's not as nice as an OE airbox for sure, but it's as nice or nicer than most of the other aftermarket stuff out there. It has a snorkel with velocity stack on it that lives down in the area between the fender liner and front bumper.
Check this video out, looks like he's got some decent shots that will show how it's installed - I just thumbed through a little with no sound, so not sure just how detailed it might be: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyHGy-JSi8w
I'm rusty on the ABS units - I know some were up on the frame rail ahead of the tower and some were down below the battery. Pretty sure later Integras (including GS-Rs) had the firewall mounted ones, no? I'm pretty sure you're good to go.
Only other issue I can think of is that, in my case at least, the original coolant overflow will not fit with the IceBox's fat snorkel and a thick-cored radiator (Koyo for me). I used an EF overflow and DC overflow bracket to get around it, looks like it should have been that way the whole time.
To clarify, you did run a P72/GS-R intake? Do you mean air tube? Or intake manifold & TB? If air tube, do you still have it? I would be interested if the price is reasonable. Thanks!
I did not realize you were 6th gen.
My ABS is on the passenger firewall, under the battery.
I would prefer to keep my overflow in the factory location...
Integra didn't have the firewall ABS. Both versions of ABS had the system mounted next to the airbox. Also EKs have the AC pipes running differently along the chassis than EKs due to different airbox/resonator pathways. Something to be aware of when planning.
This ^^^
I have functional AC - it is invaluable for clearing the windshield on cold mornings. I swear my windows fog instantly in the mornings.
ABS - here is a crappy close-up of the location relative to the TB:
I think the main concern with that is weather on not the intake pipe will interfere with the EG's large ABS module mounted just below the battery. It's very close to the GSR throttle body.
Exactly correct.
I will try to get a better pic...
To clarify, you did run a P72/GS-R intake? Do you mean air tube? Or intake manifold & TB? If air tube, do you still have it? I would be interested if the price is reasonable. Thanks!
I did not realize you were 6th gen.
My ABS is on the passenger firewall, under the battery.
I would prefer to keep my overflow in the factory location...
In my '94 (5th gen) I ran the box with a P72/GS-R intake tube & manifold until I switched to am PR3 head and ITR manifold. Then I ran a P73/ITR tube to the same filter.
I stole the box and P73 intake arm from my '94 and installed it on my '00 when I swapped the B20 in. So really, it's been in pretty much all of the 92-00 B-series Civic configurations at some point
Totally understand on wanting to leave the overflow where it is. I would have preferred that myself but the Koyo is just too thikkkk lol. It all fit when I had the stock shroud and an OE Del Sol VTEC rad in there. Just thought I'd throw out the solution in case you run into the same problem.
Air Box & Air Tube For Swap - Ideas Needed
