So I got the motor in the bay but can’t get the mounts to line up, help?

It’s on a creeper, could that be the problem? I can’t get a Jack under the motor at all but I didn’t think this would be such a big deal. Should I just get a hoist?

Thanks guys

 

You doing motor and trans at the same time, or is the trans already mounted to the chassis? What car and engine?

 

I removed and installed my motor setup from the bottom up, solo without any help. Okay...I had some help. Their names were floor Jacks and furniture Dolly. LOL

 

Ok so I got the 2 mounts in with a lot of jacks and some prayers lol. So Tranny and engine post mount are in but I need to get the t bracket in any advice?

Both 2 side mounts are bolted in, can I get enough space by just rocking the motor to get the t bracket in there or should I have bolted that first? Gonna go out and try but it’s real tight Idk if it’ll fit like that

 

It’s hitting the engine on a little part but I can’t get it down to line it up with the tranny. Should I take off the front mounts? I don’t think the bolt is a problem but I can take it off? Advice??? Please lol

 

First, stop hitting the "T" bracket with a hammer trying to get it to drop in... it won't. Unfortunately, the proper way to install it is to have the engine forward from the transmission and post mount locations, place the "T" bracket into place and loosely place the rear mount bolt through the "T" bracket... then move the engine rearward so that you can install the transmission and post mounts. A furniture dolly as NVturbo used is an excellent way to install the engine in from the bottom.

 

I got frustrated man lol. So I should drop the motor again, there’s no way I could maybe loosen trans mount on the jack and swing the motor enough to get the clearance?

Or just drop it and try again

 

If you have any bolts in the T bracket, you need to remove them so you can jostle the t bracket around back there. Once you have the trans and engine mount in and bolted you can rock the engine to be able to play with getting the t mount behind the motor and in place, then finally add the bolts, the one from the trans side and the two from the engine side and the one long one in the bushing chassis (steering rack) side.

 

as my Dad once said "did you use a hammer to take it out? If not you dont need a hammer to put it back in"

 

take the bolts out of the T bracket. It needs to be loose. if you've already tightened the top 2 mounts loosen those as well.
You will need to wiggle the bracket/engine around and it should drop in.

 

Jr was right no way it was gonna go in like that I had to drop it and Dolly ftw

The creeper the motor was on wouldn’t let me push it all the way back so it could fully reach the t bracket, so I jacked up the motor and got the two main mounts bolted, but the t bracket wouldn’t clear that’s why I was strugglin

Creeper wheels kept hitting the subframe but the Dolly is a lot smaller and can wheel around the bay much easier I’m never using a creeper again lol

Tbracket should always bolt first then the rest of the mounts

 

Glad to hear you got it worked out. Now, get her running.

 

 

This statement is untrue, the FSM manual says you bolt the engine mount first, the transmission mount second, then the t bracket 3rd, then it's the two torque mounts on each side as for order of install, tightening for the 92-00.

I thought you said you had the engine and transmission mount done and in place so the engine/tranny should have been hanging from those two mounts already. If you didn't have the engine in place on those two mounts, you were no where ready for the t-bracket.

The 96-00 manual shows the same thing, another user brought up the pages from the del-sol manual that added the missing pages to the 92 manual that shows the actual order and it matched the 96-00 manual.

 

Placing the rear most bolt "Loosely" through the back of the "T" bracket and the rear engine mount allows the mount to be in the general vicinity of where it needs to be when one moves the engine into place so that the axis mounts (upper transmission and driver's side post mount) can be installed. The general path of the engine, when being installed from under the car, is into the engine bay a few inches closer to the front until the bottom of the intake manifold clears the front of the "T" bracket, then rolled toward the firewall on the dolly that it is sitting on to align the axis mounts. Once the upper transmission and driver's side post mount are bolted up and snug, the engine will hang neutrally in the engine bay, and the remainder of the mounts can be installed (rear "T" bracket and the two front torque mounts) in whatever order you choose. TomCat39 is likely very proficient with the process outlined in the FSM, and I am not arguing this process... what it doesn't take into account is that your chassis is jacked up "nose high" just to get the engine and transmission UNDER the lower core support, which places both of the axis mount bracket pockets on the frame rails at a difficult angle to align the engine assembly and mounts properly... so if possible, one would "Lower" the car down onto the engine assembly so as to get the mount pockets closer to horizontal and facilitating the mounts being installed and bolted up properly.

In short, I suggested placing the "T" bracket in place either before the engine goes into the bay, or at least goes into place just as the engine passes the point in which the "T" bracket can pass under the intake manifold and be wiggled into place while the engine is still slightly forward in the engine bay and BEFORE the axis mounts are bolted up. It is very difficult to move the "T" bracket into place once the engine rests in the engine bay by the upper transmission and the driver's side engine/post mount. Loosely starting the rear mount bolt through the "T" bracket keeps it in place while your hands are distracted with other mounts and jacks while the engine is wrangled into place.

 

On the 92-95 I've never had a problem getting the T bracket into place once I got the engine hanging from the engine and transmission mount. I slide under the car with the T bracket in hand, push the oil pan forward and slide the t bracket in sideways behind the motor to get it up above the steering rack, then I can play with turning it about and getting it into place.

However!!! I also have the support brace from block to under the intake manifold off, that brace prevents one from playing with the T bracket to get into position. After the t bracket is in, then I put the IM brace into place and torque it down.

Found the thread where Biggiebert provided the missing pages that comes in the complete FSM that has the Del-Sol and the B16A2 motors in them. It shows the install order Honda expected on the mounts:




If you want the pages yourself, the pdf's are attached to the post here.