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Old Feb 8, 2022 | 07:28 AM
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Hey everyone,

Quick question, wanting to do a k-swap in my 99 ek coupe. I'm wanting to get the eg/dc subframe. I had someone ask me about which eg subframe I want (i.e. DX, or EX). Does it matter if it DX or EX, and if so what is the difference? I guess, same question go for the Integra subframe (94- 01) , what's the difference between the different models? Is it just having PS rack or manual rack ? Sorry for the dumb questions.

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Old Feb 8, 2022 | 10:29 AM
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Power steering vs non-power steering is the difference. All Integras came with power steering, easy there. Don't rely on trim level for Civics though... for example, two & three door DX's were manual but four door DX's were powered.
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Old Feb 8, 2022 | 01:06 PM
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Power steering vs non-power steering is the difference. All Integras came with power steering, easy there. Don't rely on trim level for Civics though... for example, two & three door DX's were manual but four door DX's were powered.
So if I'm going to use a EG subframe (92-95) for the k-swap. I can really use any of them? Doesn't matter if it's a couple, hatch, or sedan ?
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Old Feb 8, 2022 | 03:10 PM
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Correct. All you need to worry about is power/manual steering. Obviously, match the subframe to whichever type of rack you are going to use.
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Old Feb 8, 2022 | 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Ek coupe to eg subframe

And you can de-power an Integra rack if you don't want power steering, if you use an Integra subframe.
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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 06:06 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but i hear its easier driving for a manual rack then converting a power rack to manual by looping the lines. Is that true ?

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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 01:45 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but i hear its easier driving for a manual rack then converting a power rack to manual by looping the lines. Is that true ?
The correct way to de-power the rack is to open it and cut the plate off. Then grease the teeth and pinion, then reassemble it. Then you can JB weld the hydraulic ports closed.

Looping it is a bandaid to keep it lubed, but then you're moving hydraulic fluid around and making it tougher to steer.
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^This is the way.

There's not much difference in effort between a properly depowered rack and a manual rack, but the manual rack is much slower (3.3 LTL or something like that, I forget).

I'm probably the wrong person to ask though. I've had manual, powered and depowered, but I'll take the powered every time if it's an option. Life goals for a track car build is to have a manual rack with an electric column and a quickener. Would love to get down to ~2 turn LTL while getting the weight all behind the firewall.
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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 05:37 PM
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So in your guys opinion,

I’m wanting to have a good daily drivable car, I current have 99 ek coupe. I have a full swap from a 05 RSX type-s. So would the manual rack out of a 93 eg be ok? I don’t think with that swap I can keep the power steering, if I’m not mistaken. What do you guys think would be the best option?
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Old Feb 9, 2022 | 09:04 PM
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Ya. Thats fine. Different steering racks have different feedback when driving at speed is all.

I like more feedback so I went with an Integra rack.

The Civic rack is easier to turn when at low speeds, like parking.
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Old Feb 10, 2022 | 04:28 AM
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Thank you guys for all the info,

I know this has been answered plenty of times, but just to confirm with y'all. When switching over to the eg subframe on an ek. You need; subframe, LCA, compliance bushing, the U-joint to connect rack to column, and then all corresponding bolts. Is that about it ?
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