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hello Community
been a memeber since 2017 but have been always reading the forum for solutions and it’s been really helpful.
thank you all.
now there’s a problem that doesn’t want to go away.
i have a ‘96 honda, owned it since ‘02, and had to change the engine when it stopped on a road trip in 2018, (f22z2 engine) timing belt cut, camshaft grind the cylinder, looked really bad.
again, 6 months ago, suddenly, the car started running funny and no water was in radiator but a lot of steam was coming out from the exhaust, gasket was gone. when we opened up the engine (f22b1) the block had rusted and no gasket could manage to separate the water from the oil.
got another engine(f22b1) 6 months ago, now, i’ve had to spend double on gas. noticed there’s always black smoke at the tail pipe, plugs are always black, car hardly makes a 150km trip on full tank.
though i have check engine light on, these technicians cant find where to hook their devices to.
i need advice.
Last edited by mr_whyyte; Jan 25, 2021 at 12:47 AM.
Reason: Stock Engine Look
thanks again for the info on the ODB location but still couldnt find it.
got to the ashtray though (at the back seat in the center console with the power window buttons) but behind it was the hand brake cables -1 was cut, will be getting that fixed over the weekend.
still have to explore all the options for the gas consumption and reason for the black smoke.
all suggestions will be appreciated.
thank you.
My mistake, I forgot there were two ashtrays in those cars. It is the ashtray located underneath the stereo, beside the cigarette lighter that I was referring to.
My guess is that your egr (exhaust gas recirculation) valve has failed, and that the ports are gummed up with carbon. This is common in these cars. Another thing that has probably failed is your oxygen sensor(s). I believe there is one on the exhaust manifold and another near the catalytic converter. It reads as bank one or two if there is a code for those. Engine timing set incorrectly, failed tps (throttle position sensor) gummed up fuel injectors, and clogged catalytic converter could all contribute to poor fuel economy and an overall poor running condition of your vehicle. The most important thing and possibly the root of the problem is that you are using the incorrect ecu. The original ecu for the f22z2 may not be compatible (without modification) for the f22b1 engine. The two engines are from different markets/countries of the world, which could have different emission standards and ecu pinouts. Definitely something to check as well.
thanks a lot, i appreciate this.
but i still couldn't find the thing.
probably car doesn’t have.
i took apart that part under the stereo but it was clean.
looking at all the possible issues listed, i think the only thing left to try is get another ecu & cross check the O2 sensor. there’s just 1 on the exhaust pipe close to the catalytic converter. will get a rewire to check if it’s functioning.
already took out the EGR valve & cleaned it some weeks ago, the throttle body as well, the fuel pressure valve too was changed, MAP sensor too changed. injectors were serviced too & the timing is almost accurate.
the ecu was actually taken out to check for damages but it looked as new from factory and now that you mentioned it might be incompatible with the engine, will just have to get it changed.
i appreciate your support a lot, thank you.
but do you have a hint on what to look out for when picking the right ecu for this engine?
That’s odd that the connector isn’t located there. It could possibly be located near or underneath the drivers side dashboard. If for whatever reason it is an obdI car, the code(s) will have to be obtained via jumping (paper clip method) the blue service connector located around the pass side footwell/glovebox area. The number of blinks dictates what the code is. I see that your original engine was produced for the European market, so maybe that can help you in knowing more about your car. The North American market didn’t have that engine in 94-97,, so we really don’t know anything about them. It is really hard to find info on the engine/ecu since it was only produced for two years. Not sure what the ecu code is for the f22b1 as it varies throughout the generation (94-95 differs from 96-97)and if it’s for an automatic or manual transmission. Probably best to take a picture of the ecu number in your car so you at least know for reference and to confirm if it’s obdI or obdII ecu.
You could always try posting in the accord section. I remember ghostaccord was really helpful and knowledgeable when I used to have an accord.
That’s good you’ve taken care of those other issues. It will definitely help in narrowing down what the actual issue is.