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Road / Race: Testing the 5th Gen: Could not disable ABS

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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 03:47 PM
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Default Road / Race: Testing the 5th Gen: Could not disable ABS

Was testing the accord last week in the rain. Pulling the e-brake one-click to engage the brake light on the dash did NOT disengage the ABS system as it would on a similarly equipped integra. ABS system and kickback was still alive under hard braking to skid conditions. This was attempted different times on different surfaces....

Anyone have similar or dissimilar experiences?
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Road / Race: Testing the 5th Gen: Could not disable ABS (RotaryBzzz)

I've enver heard of doing that to disable ABS. why not just pull the fuse?
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 04:46 PM
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Default Re: Road / Race: Testing the 5th Gen: Could not disable ABS (RotaryBzzz)

so the ABS light was on but it was still working? that's odd
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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odd
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 05:34 PM
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Default Re: Road / Race: Testing the 5th Gen: Could not disable ABS (SOHCArchangel)

did this in my brother's GSR, pull ebrake up til Brake light comes on, drive it that way about 1/2 mile til ABS light comes on.
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Old Nov 15, 2002 | 08:57 PM
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can anyone explain why the abs light comes on if the car is traveling over 40 mph(on speed of course) when its lifted off the ground?
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 06:30 AM
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Default Re: Road / Race: Testing the 5th Gen: Could not disable ABS (WuWarrior)

i just looked at your pics of your car where did your get the cage from? i'm looking for one and is it welded on bolted in?
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 08:09 AM
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Default Re: Road / Race: Testing the 5th Gen: Could not disable ABS (Razor)

can anyone explain why the abs light comes on if the car is traveling over 40 mph(on speed of course) when its lifted off the ground?
Could be something with the speed sensors on the wheels. As in the front wheels are spinning at 40 MPH and the rear wheels are not. Which to the ABS computer, looks like the rear wheels are locked up. Just my theory...
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 08:26 AM
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Default Re: Road / Race: Testing the 5th Gen: Could not disable ABS (Stew Pidasso)

be careful wiht this, you can void insurance and any warranty by messing with ABS, mine is disconnected and it id tricky to learn threshold braking in a non-ABS situation

is there a paticular reason you are doing this?

if you want a cage look at Mitch Piper (PiperMotorsports) out of NOVA. He builds the best cages around.
are you building a road race car?


[Modified by urbanlegend21, 12:27 PM 11/20/2002]
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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Default Re: Road / Race: Testing the 5th Gen: Could not disable ABS (urbanlegend21)

a couple of years ago we had ice storms in the Philadelphia area and at the time I was driving a 93 Grand AM and The entire street was a sheet of ice and I had started braking like 1/2 a mile before the light and the ABS was pumping the entire time untill suddenly the light came on and the car just started skidding sideways, I think that the ABS can't figure out why the car hasn't stopped yet and why whenever it lets off the brake the wheel doesn't start spinning again and it throws a code thinking that one of the sensors is feeding back faluty information. Just a theory. SO if that is true same thing in a race situation, the wheel is off the ground ABS kicks in the wheel stops but all the other wheels are still moving , but yet that one wheel hasn't started spinning again, confuses the ABS.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 08:54 AM
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a couple of years ago we had ice storms in the Philadelphia area and at the time I was driving a 93 Grand AM and The entire street was a sheet of ice and I had started braking like 1/2 a mile before the light and the ABS was pumping the entire time untill suddenly the light came on and the car just started skidding sideways, I think that the ABS can't figure out why the car hasn't stopped yet and why whenever it lets off the brake the wheel doesn't start spinning again and it throws a code thinking that one of the sensors is feeding back faluty information. Just a theory. SO if that is true same thing in a race situation, the wheel is off the ground ABS kicks in the wheel stops but all the other wheels are still moving , but yet that one wheel hasn't started spinning again, confuses the ABS.
yeah but the only time wheels are lifted off the ground are in extremely stiff suspension cars under cornering, otherwise if the wheel is off the ground the last thing I would be worrying about would be the ABS

your point makes sense though because some smaller civics and CRX's will lighten the rear wheel under extremely hard braking, but I have never seen it so much the wheel will not keep spining, or it be for more than a split second if that
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Road / Race: Testing the 5th Gen: Could not disable ABS (urbanlegend21)

Pulling the ebrake up does kill the ABS in Accords. I have done it before. You have to drive around for certain amount of time (30secs?) then the ABS light will come on. I've done it a few times, just goofing off.
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