Hey so I had a 600hp Integra and dropped a valve so on to a rebuild doing darton sleeves cp pistons carillo rods 4 piston racing head Ferrara valves skunk2 pro 1 cams I know it’s a cheap turbo but have a 72mm on3 journal bearing was fun while it lasted obviously a little laggy I’ve been looking at precision turbos for a while but the price is killing me I know you pay for what you get just curious what y’all are running or what you’ve seen or heard good things about all my buddies run precision but wanted something a little cheaper if I can find something decent

 

Honestly, you're better off finding another on3 or go to eBay. For $350 for something that large, you're not going to get any alternatives at that price range. Hell, you could buy about 5 of those for one PTE.

 

I’m aware of that 😂 I just meant something like $1,500 or so thanks tho

 

My buddy is running an On3 72mm on his 2014 Mustang and it has done pretty good for a while now. He just rebuilt his engine due to an oil pump failure and using the same turbo. If it works, rock it!

 

yeah I had it for 6 months turbo is still good tho was fun as hell I have no complaints about it just the fact that it’s journal bearing and I want something that can take the abuse and spool quicker

 

I have a ball bearing 72mm Comp I’ll sell you for $1,500.

 

My buddy gave up his Precision 62/66 for a REV 9 72/68 with a billet wheel. His first pass off the trailer this pass weekend was a 9.8 @ 147. Made 731whp @ 24 psi on a 10.1 Darton 84mm with type R cams. On stock transmission or they would have turned the car up more. Turbo was around 300.00.

 

Borg Warner S366 SX-E or Holset HX52 or Garrett GTW 67mm JB

 

holy s*** that’s actually surprising thanks for the help bro

 

thanks man I’m just tryna get options to debate over which is best for me

 

PTE turbos aren't really all that people claim it is. IMO, the name pushes the price up. Yes, I had a PTE SC-61 in the past and compared to the Turbonetics I have now, there is no comparison, especially when it comes to efficiency.

previous setup..... 379HP ~ 22psi >>> 17.22HP/psi
current setup...…. 324HP ~ 11.6psi >>> 27.9HP/psi

 

Was that just a lateral move, as in brand change, or were the specs different in any way?

 

SC61 was on a B18B1 setup (piston, rods, sleeved block, etc..) in a Civic EG hatch. You would think with a PTE, the power output would have been noticeably better. Yes, more HP but at a higher boost level. If I'm not mistaken, I paid well over $750 for the PTE while the Turbonetics I have now...$525.

 

 

Not a fair comparison - the SC61 used an older tech cast compressor wheel with a Turbonetics derived turbine wheel IIRC. The CEA and Gen 2 CEA stuff is a world apart from those original PTE line turbos. You'd need to compare a 6062 (Gen 2) to the Turbonetics or at the very least a 5858 Gen 1. I'm not a PTE fanboy but its worth noting that their CEA stuff flow ridiculous numbers for the size of the wheel

 

Are you kidding, PTE turbos are bad ***, when it comes to drag racing and making power you can't beat it. There is a reason domestics and imports who want to go fast use Precision, a gen2 6266 on my buddies car went an 8.49. Tell me any other 62mm turbo that is doing that, in my opinion I would have never traded a PTE 6266 for an ebay turbo. You have Honda's running 7 second passes with the PTE 7285 what ebay 72mm turbo is doing that on a Honda. Yes the price is high but you get what you pay for.

Now there are other good turbos out there that are not PTE but when you want every advantage to make every ounce of power you go with PTE.

 

You wanted comparable. You didn't state you were willing to spend a more appropriate amount.

We done yet? Buy something and put it on. Otherwise, this just gets subjective, and no tech in it..

 

I'm not saying PTE turbos aren't good turbos. Money for money, there are plenty of other options available. As for Ebay turbos....ALL GARBAGE. Don't care, don't want to even bother with.

 

That’s my point though, find me a different option turbo for example 62mm, that will make more power, spool better and out perform a PTE 6270. I’ve used Comp, Garrett and buddies of mine have also used Borg Warner. None of those options could compare, even modified ones.

Same applies to others size turbos and no named eBay stuff can’t compare at all.

 

Even I can't argue with the performance aspect on the PTE 6270.. Turbonetics, not bad, either. Other aspects of PTE, no comment, as it isn't relevant to AZ_CIVIC's point.

 

I agree with Shodan of other aspects besides pure power. If I was going to run a turbo for 100,000 miles and know it will last I would use a Garrett hands down.

But if I were drag racing in certain classes I would choose a PTE.

 

yeah I get what your say I was hopping to just get ideas obviously 800 isn’t going to be reliable at all album yeah I don’t want to spend like 3k and blow the motor and ruin it but at the same time don’t want to spend 300 and have the turbo blow the motor for me 😂 thanks for all the help in the chat tho everything counts the more ideas the better 🙏🏼

 

To be fair youll allways have numbers advantage when you trade realiability for it.
Also the use or "air curve" or "snake curve" point miling compressor wheels will allways flow more for their size.
Until the mm categories get modernised it will allways help the curve bladed turbo because of the bigger overal lengh...
Garret and BW use straight blades.
Look at the extreme tuner explanation.



But "curve" bladed compressor wheels take ALOT Of time machining and shoot the overal final cost of the turbo very high.
I asked a designer/cnc company about this and he told me maybe 2 or 3 times the time to cut the wheel...
Old style billet wheel 100-150. Point miling wheel 200-250, point miling air curve - snake curve wheels 400++ That was his quote...

 

thanks bro this is the kinda stuff I wanted to know more about I got a lot of the motor down pretty freaking good I just don’t know a lot about the math behind the turbos to pick the best for my build

 

It's more than just about being "curved" vs. "straight" exudcer transient energy wheels. If you want to know the real differences and point-counterpoints of wheel design.PM me an e-mail and I'll gladly send you a PDF white paper and link to books that explain that a lot more as a whole.

This is the technical stuff. The white paper has a more simplified explanation
Turbo Math