P72 head, anything stand out with it?

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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 03:00 PM
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Default P72 head, anything stand out with it?

Found this for $400 and comes with the valve cover (crappy looking one), GSR cams, and a VTEC solenoid. Guy says its 100% stock, not milled, not ported, etc etc. Only thing that stands out to me is the cam caps are discolored differently than the rest of the head. Red flag?

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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 03:02 PM
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 04:17 PM
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Looks like just oil staining on the caps, no biggie. I'd HIGHLY suggest new valve seals though.. By the looks of those ports, those seals went bad long ago. 400 is also a tad steep.. They negotiable?
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 04:29 PM
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Missing Cyl 1 Exh cap?
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 04:35 PM
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Missing Cyl 1 Exh cap?
Im assuming it comes with it. Cams aren’t pictures either
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 04:37 PM
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I do have a question. I’ve read it’s important that the head has the original cam caps to it. Is that true and if so how do you tell?
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 05:33 PM
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Yes. Torque cams down and make sure they spin freely
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 07:02 PM
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Looks like just oil staining on the caps, no biggie. I'd HIGHLY suggest new valve seals though.. By the looks of those ports, those seals went bad long ago. 400 is also a tad steep.. They negotiable?
Show me where you can get a good P72 in Europe for $400.. That's more than reasonable. even in the U.S.
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Old Feb 25, 2020 | 07:12 PM
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Show me where you can get a good P72 in Europe for $400.. That's more than reasonable. even in the U.S.
Ahh, Europe. Understandable. Here? Just a matter of looking around. I've passed on a couple damn good GSR possibilities recently; I don't have another chassis to toss it in yet.
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Yes. Torque cams down and make sure they spin freely
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 02:33 AM
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I dont know about p72 but we have a good gazilion B16 full heads here for like 150-200 euros including cams and everything.
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Yes. Torque cams down and make sure they spin freely
So lets say I have him take a video to save me a 2 hour trip and assemble/torque down the thing in a parking lot. How apparent would it be if the cam caps AREN'T the correct ones? Will the cam bind up and not move at all? If the cam caps are original, how freely should they spin? Are we talking you give them momentum and they go round and round or you can just move them by hand?
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Cams will bind if incorrect. With a socket they should spin freely only tension will be from valve springs
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If the head checks out and you get it, I would check to see if it needs to be milled, hot tank that mother and get a full valve train. No need to port&polish if you are staying at lower power levels but a really good valve train and seals would be perfect.
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If the head checks out and you get it, I would check to see if it needs to be milled, hot tank that mother and get a full valve train. No need to port&polish if you are staying at lower power levels but a really good valve train and seals would be perfect.
I might buy a set of those stupid $750 cams. LOL
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Cams will bind if incorrect. With a socket they should spin freely only tension will be from valve springs
Socket? Why wouldn't you just spin the cams with your hand by the cam gears?
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 08:38 AM
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I might buy a set of those stupid $750 cams. LOL
GSC or Pro1's?

Also, it depends on what kind of HP you are looking to make, I made 700whp on Type R cams and ran a 9.9 with them. So if you are only shooting for 400whp there is no need for a big cam. I would use that money for a really strong valve train.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Socket? Why wouldn't you just spin the cams with your hand by the cam gears?
You can't spin the cams with your hand if the valvetrain is in there is what he was referring to..
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 09:21 AM
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GSC or Pro1's?

Also, it depends on what kind of HP you are looking to make, I made 700whp on Type R cams and ran a 9.9 with them. So if you are only shooting for 400whp there is no need for a big cam. I would use that money for a really strong valve train.
I was just kidding, I don't think I'll ever benefit from aftermarket cams.
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Originally Posted by AZ_CIVIC
GSC or Pro1's?

Also, it depends on what kind of HP you are looking to make, I made 700whp on Type R cams and ran a 9.9 with them. So if you are only shooting for 400whp there is no need for a big cam. I would use that money for a really strong valve train.
‘yep type R cams will be a smoother idle at a more natural rpm range, I run the pro1 and I love them, but I keep my idle around 1000-1200 rpm
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 11:06 AM
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I thought the Tuner 1 were good turbo cams? I imagine ITR cams in 2020 aren’t easy to find or cheap
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 12:09 PM
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I thought the Tuner 1 were good turbo cams? I imagine ITR cams in 2020 aren’t easy to find or cheap
You can find them for about $350.
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 12:20 PM
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You can find them for about $350.
Where? That's the big question
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Old Feb 26, 2020 | 12:49 PM
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Where? That's the big question
I've seen them posted on HT, different Facebook groups, etc. Kind of like you trying to find a head and block you just got to search.
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