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I know their clutches suck but XTD Flywheels any good?

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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 07:22 PM
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Default I know their clutches suck but XTD Flywheels any good?

I'm about to grab an Exedy Stage 1 clutch and I was considering get a light weight flywheel. They're very..affordable... from XTD, I'm aware of the poor quality of their clutches but it seems pretty hard to mess up a fly wheel. Anyone have any experience?
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 08:31 PM
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I would get an Exedy light flywheel. It's what I did on my 07 Si and it spins up pretty quick compared to stock and the quality is great.
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 08:35 PM
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Default Re: I know their clutches suck but XTD Flywheels any good?

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I would get an Exedy light flywheel. It's what I did on my 07 Si and it spins up pretty quick compared to stock and the quality is great.
Yeah but $$$. It costs more than the transmission I'm buying. At that point I might as well resurface my oem flywheel, which is fine.
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 08:41 PM
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When I took my flywheel to the machine shop they said they almost never can resurface a flywheel as they are typically beyond spec by the time the clutch is gone. If you have any lip at all on the edge, it's typically to thin to be resurfaced.

Also think about this, a resurfaced flywheel is thinner, this will be less clamping force now that the distance between plate and flywheel is larger.

And it would be easy to mess up a flywheel, just by not quality balancing it during manufacture. If XTD already has a bad reputation, I doubt it's any better on their flywheel.

Fidanza is decent for stock setups. It's a two piece that tends to get destroyed on Turbo or Supercharged high output setups, but seen stock people happy with the light flywheel. And their pretty cheap, at least the ones I was seeing.
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Old Jan 29, 2020 | 09:09 PM
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Default Re: I know their clutches suck but XTD Flywheels any good?

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When I took my flywheel to the machine shop they said they almost never can resurface a flywheel as they are typically beyond spec by the time the clutch is gone. If you have any lip at all on the edge, it's typically to thin to be resurfaced.

Also think about this, a resurfaced flywheel is thinner, this will be less clamping force now that the distance between plate and flywheel is larger.

And it would be easy to mess up a flywheel, just by not quality balancing it during manufacture. If XTD already has a bad reputation, I doubt it's any better on their flywheel.

Fidanza is decent for stock setups. It's a two piece that tends to get destroyed on Turbo or Supercharged high output setups, but seen stock people happy with the light flywheel. And their pretty cheap, at least the ones I was seeing.
The clutch isn't gone. I'm just putting a new tranny in so I'm going with a new clutch. This is a 200whp turbo setup. So I guess I should check the oem condition of the flywheel.
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Old Jan 30, 2020 | 02:21 AM
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Get a spare flywheel and have it resurfaced at a machine shop. XTD sucks....PERIOD
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Old Jan 30, 2020 | 07:59 AM
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Default Re: I know their clutches suck but XTD Flywheels any good?

Originally Posted by TomCat39
When I took my flywheel to the machine shop they said they almost never can resurface a flywheel as they are typically beyond spec by the time the clutch is gone. If you have any lip at all on the edge, it's typically to thin to be resurfaced.

Also think about this, a resurfaced flywheel is thinner, this will be less clamping force now that the distance between plate and flywheel is larger.

And it would be easy to mess up a flywheel, just by not quality balancing it during manufacture. If XTD already has a bad reputation, I doubt it's any better on their flywheel.

Fidanza is decent for stock setups. It's a two piece that tends to get destroyed on Turbo or Supercharged high output setups, but seen stock people happy with the light flywheel. And their pretty cheap, at least the ones I was seeing.
A good machine shop that Properly surfaces flywheels will actually remove the dowel alignment pins and cut both the engagement surface AND the pressure plate cover mounting surface so as to keep the step difference between the two at the original spec. So you would be right in that the flywheel would be a bit thinner/lighter... but no clamping force would be lost. Now if some hack shop just cuts the engagement surface... you are absolutely right about the loss of clamping force. You would be lucky if the clutch works at all.

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Get a spare flywheel and have it resurfaced at a machine shop. XTD sucks....PERIOD
I second the "XTD sucks... PERIOD" statement. What application flywheel do you need ?
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 12:06 PM
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Default Re: I know their clutches suck but XTD Flywheels any good?

Originally Posted by JRCivic1
A good machine shop that Properly surfaces flywheels will actually remove the dowel alignment pins and cut both the engagement surface AND the pressure plate cover mounting surface so as to keep the step difference between the two at the original spec. So you would be right in that the flywheel would be a bit thinner/lighter... but no clamping force would be lost. Now if some hack shop just cuts the engagement surface... you are absolutely right about the loss of clamping force. You would be lucky if the clutch works at all.

I second the "XTD sucks... PERIOD" statement. What application flywheel do you need ?
You beat me to it...on both statements.
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Old Jan 31, 2020 | 12:11 PM
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Default Re: I know their clutches suck but XTD Flywheels any good?

So I guess everything from xtd sucks. I'm sticking with my oem flywheel. Nothing wrong with it just upgrading the clutch.
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