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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 12:06 PM
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I’m having a problem with my 1993 Honda Civic which has me stumped. I’ve been driving it for 10 years. Up until recently, the temperature gauge reads about 1/3 of the way when the engine warms up and it sticks there. What’s happening now is, after driving for a half hour or so, the temperature gauge starts to rise when I’m idling, eventually getting as high as 2/3 before the fan finally kicks in. So, it’s not exactly overheating but it’s definitely behaving in a manner that is unusual and it’s nerve wracking. I’ve replaced the thermostat and fan switch and it’s still the same. I’ve checked both the fan motor and relay and both seem to be working. No coolant leaks, head gasket is good. Any ideas?


1993 Civic Hatchback DX
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Engine type - D15B7
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 05:27 PM
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timing belt maybe jumped a notch?
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 05:56 PM
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Thoroughly bleed the cooling system. Then go from there.
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tamboo
timing belt maybe jumped a notch?
Hmmm...hadn't considered that, but seems unlikely. I'll check that this weekend.
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 08:40 PM
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If after you bleed the coolant it's still doing that, I would suggest replacing the thermostat.

I tested a brand new thermostat that I had put in a car that did exactly as you described and found it was opening late/higher temp than the car requires. Your thermostat could be old and is now opening at a hotter temperature than the engine requires, then once the fan kicks in you see the temp drop back down.
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Old Jan 9, 2020 | 10:14 PM
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Test the thermostat by putting it in boiling water and check temperature with thermometer and see if it’s opening at the right temperature.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 09:20 AM
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If after you bleed the coolant it's still doing that, I would suggest replacing the thermostat.

I tested a brand new thermostat that I had put in a car that did exactly as you described and found it was opening late/higher temp than the car requires. Your thermostat could be old and is now opening at a hotter temperature than the engine requires, then once the fan kicks in you see the temp drop back down.
I've replaced it twice now with the same result. I may try again this weekend.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 09:21 AM
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Test the thermostat by putting it in boiling water and check temperature with thermometer and see if it’s opening at the right temperature.
That's clever! At what temperature is it supposed to open?
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 09:38 AM
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I've replaced it twice now with the same result. I may try again this weekend.
Bleed. There's a good chance that air is trapped in the cooling system.

It's critical that you quickly solve the overheating problem, which will destroy the engine, if this hasn't already happened.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 12:16 PM
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That's clever! At what temperature is it supposed to open?
180*F should be where it opens up I believe


here a videos in how to
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 12:24 PM
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Check if your coolants is low.

Here how I bleed my coolant:
Jack from of the car up so it’ll be incline a bit, then leave cap off the radiator and turn heat all the way up, once it gets up to temperature squeeze the bottom and top radiator hose to help get the air bubbles out. Keep bleeding till you stop seeing air bubbles from the radiator neck.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by K20.ek
Here how I bleed my coolant:
Jack from of the car up so it’ll be incline a bit, then leave cap off the radiator and turn heat all the way up, once it gets up to temperature squeeze the bottom and top radiator hose to help get the air bubbles out. Keep bleeding till you stop seeing air bubbles from the radiator neck.
Additional important information:
The D15B7 has a bleeder bolt on the water outlet to remove air. Starting the bleed process with a cold engine, the process should continue until the radiator fan turns on twice.




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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by K20.ek
180*F should be where it opens up I believe
180 is the VX D15Z1 only, all other 92-95 stock engines is 172. The 172 I bought didn't start opening until 180 and is why I believe the temp gauge would rise to 3/4 then drop when the fans kicked on. And would not overheat at all when driving, only idling.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 05:23 PM
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Sorry for the misinformation guys I just went by how I did it.
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Old Jan 10, 2020 | 09:46 PM
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Alright, so it looks like my weekend work is:
- check thermostat
- bleed coolant
I'm also going to pop a new relay in...I talked to a guy who's worked on a lot of Hondas and he said that it's possible that it's getting stuck and behaving erratically. I'll report back with results.
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 02:13 AM
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Default Re: 93 Civic Hatchback running hot/overheating

what about a clogged radiator?
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TomCat39
180 is the VX D15Z1 only, all other 92-95 stock engines is 172. The 172 I bought didn't start opening until 180 and is why I believe the temp gauge would rise to 3/4 then drop when the fans kicked on. And would not overheat at all when driving, only idling.
Can you give me the correct Honda part number for the thermostat that opens at 172f for the D15B7 engine?
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Old Jan 25, 2020 | 03:39 PM
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Enter your VIN and look up the part #.

https://www.bernardiparts.com/
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