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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 09:29 AM
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Default Good options for sway bar with Yonaka exhaust?

Looking to aquire a sway bar for my 96 hatch. What sway bars (oem or aftermarket) would fit with the yonaka 2.5" exhaust.

I am lowered but I'm not sure how much. Here's a picture.

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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 10:02 AM
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Default Re: Good options for sway bar with Yonaka exhaust?

good question, think Tomcat was asking the same thing but for a different exhaust. I technically never ran into this problem but I guess its because its with the stock swaybar and w/o the ASR thingie majjigy
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tony_2018
good question, think Tomcat was asking the same thing but for a different exhaust. I technically never ran into this problem but I guess its because its with the stock swaybar and w/o the ASR thingie majjigy
So you think an si sway bar would fit?
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 12:40 PM
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Its 13mm, I think, so it should fit fine. Its those who have the ASR subframe brace AND THEN the swaybar because it pushes the swaybar back.

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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Good options for sway bar with Yonaka exhaust?

I recently installed the Yonaka 2.5" exhaust on my em1 and it does not hit the swaybar.
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 01:26 PM
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Default Re: Good options for sway bar with Yonaka exhaust?

I also had an rs-r on the stock em1 and no issues.
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Old Dec 16, 2019 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by NukeNinja
I recently installed the Yonaka 2.5" exhaust on my em1 and it does not hit the swaybar.
You think it would make a difference being a hatch?

Also is the integra rear sway bar the same as the em1?

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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 06:36 AM
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The em1 sway bar will fit the hatch, but you will need lower control arms that have the hole for the end link to attach to. You will also need end links and mounting brackets.
The integra sway bars (at least some of them) are different. They have a different shape, and attach to the lcas differently.
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by NukeNinja
The em1 sway bar will fit the hatch, but you will need lower control arms that have the hole for the end link to attach to. You will also need end links and mounting brackets.
The integra sway bars (at least some of them) are different. They have a different shape, and attach to the lcas differently.
All civics already have the holes. Mine has holes in the rear. The front is a different story.
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by NukeNinja
The em1 sway bar will fit the hatch, but you will need lower control arms that have the hole for the end link to attach to. You will also need end links and mounting brackets.
The integra sway bars (at least some of them) are different. They have a different shape, and attach to the lcas differently.
The ITR sway bar fits with the em1 endlinks and also the metal inserts for sway bar. However, a GSR/LS sway bar has different mounting brackets to the subframe, you'll need to use a bunch of washers or some sort of spacer for the lower bracket to subframe area. But it fits, just kind of janky looking with the washers mounting to it. Still I rather just skip those tiny sway bars and go for one of the larger ones available.
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The ITR sway bar fits with the em1 endlinks and also the metal inserts for sway bar. However, a GSR/LS sway bar if you use that mounting brackets, you'll need to use a bunch of washers or some sort of spacer for sway bar bracket to subframe area. But it fits, just kind of janky looking with the washers mounting to it.
Can't I just use the si mounting bracket?
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Spaceturtle917
Can't I just use the si mounting bracket?
You can, it was just easier for me to just get an integra rear sway bar mounting bracket than locate an em1 one.
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by aw614
You can, it was just easier for me to just get an integra rear sway bar mounting bracket than locate an em1 one.
I believe they're $5 from honda
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 08:11 PM
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It’d be great to know.
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Old Dec 17, 2019 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaceturtle917
All civics already have the holes. Mine has holes in the rear. The front is a different story.
This is inaccurate. It depends on the generation. The 5th gen, only the SI has the provisions for rear sway bar.

Also on the 5th gen, even without the brace, the hatchback exhausts seem to run too close and fight the sway bar. The stock muffler doesn't have a problem though.

The 6th gen hatch may be different.
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 06:52 AM
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Default Re: Good options for sway bar with Yonaka exhaust?

Originally Posted by Spaceturtle917
I believe they're $5 from honda
Looks like 30 for the brackets in total, But I ended up buying the whole integra rear bar and brackets for the same cost used.
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 08:56 AM
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Default Re: Good options for sway bar with Yonaka exhaust?

should be using the em1 brackets, but whatever
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TomCat39
This is inaccurate. It depends on the generation. The 5th gen, only the SI has the provisions for rear sway bar.

Also on the 5th gen, even without the brace, the hatchback exhausts seem to run too close and fight the sway bar. The stock muffler doesn't have a problem though.

The 6th gen hatch may be different.
All 6th gen civics have to provision

Originally Posted by aw614
Looks like 30 for the brackets in total, But I ended up buying the whole integra rear bar and brackets for the same cost used.
Part number is 52308-S04-000 looks like it's about $5 everywhere. As for bushings you could use energry suspension bushings 16.5107R about $10 and new links are about $18 to $25 a piece from rockauto. The integra bushings will work for the civic if you have the integra 14mm sway, if not just use em1 bushings.


Originally Posted by tony_2018
should be using the em1 brackets, but whatever
That's what I keep telling everyone lol
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Spaceturtle917
Part number is 52308-S04-000 looks like it's about $5 everywhere. As for bushings you could use energry suspension bushings 16.5107R about $10 and new links are about $18 to $25 a piece from rockauto. The integra bushings will work for the civic if you have the integra 14mm sway, if not just use em1 bushings.
I thought you were talking about this bracket that mounts to the subframe 52317-S04-000
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TomCat39
This is inaccurate. It depends on the generation. The 5th gen, only the SI has the provisions for rear sway bar.
And not even all of these. Source: My 1993 Si Hatchback.

Originally Posted by deschlong

And the OEM rear lower sway bar, too, went on. 15mm, found on JDM EG6s and del Sols with the B16 motor. Thing is with these is the weld nuts are not present on my rear subframe, so I had to find my own hardware. I used a serrated M8x1.25 flange nut (whiz nut) and a washer, to spread out the force of the tightened bolt over a larger area. Fairly easy to get my fingers in there to get them on; pretty easy upgrade. Definitely recommend you chase out the threads on the LCA too before you bolt everything in... lots of gunk caked up in there.
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 10:49 AM
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For what it's worth ive never had any civic and ever felt like it needed a rear sway bar. Now at stock ride height in the Si I could tell the rear was more planted, after that it felt like all my other lowered hondas
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by chrysler kid
For what it's worth ive never had any civic and ever felt like it needed a rear sway bar. Now at stock ride height in the Si I could tell the rear was more planted, after that it felt like all my other lowered hondas
I rub on sharp turns in auto cross and I'm hoping this will help is all. I don't think it needs one but an oem integra or si rear and an ex front sway bar can't hurt.
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Old Dec 18, 2019 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by aw614
I thought you were talking about this bracket that mounts to the subframe 52317-S04-000
I didn't even know you needed that, thanks, I guess it does cost more than I thought.
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Yes you need those
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Originally Posted by Spaceturtle917
All 6th gen civics have to provision
Sorry, you are correct, I was thinking the front sway bar and then it goes even further to only be Japan EG6 I think that had the front sway bar. I was picturing the front lower A arms when writing my previous post.

The holes and nuts are present in the welded on subframe just like the 6th gen so you just have to get the brackets, bushings and bar.

However, on the 5th gen hatch I found even the Yonaka Muffler didn't give enough room to not hit the sway bar.
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