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Old Dec 7, 2019 | 08:27 PM
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Well.. Looks like the infamous takata air bag recall is going to hit the 96-2000 Civic crowd. Takata sold defective air bag inflators to Honda (and others) with production dates (for the cars, I assume) from May 1995 til Aug 1999. Who knows when we (96-2000) civic owners would ever get these replaced but they're going to notifying owners in Jan 2020, a month from now. If that's the case I'll be disconnecting the claymoor mine in front of my face!

Had to share with everyone, in case ya didn't know.. here's the NHTSA document link

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/201...9E080-7937.PDF
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Old Dec 7, 2019 | 11:28 PM
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Thank you for sharing. I guess this means that my EM1 will get a new deployer/bag or two.
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Old Dec 8, 2019 | 12:21 PM
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nice find.
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 02:06 AM
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@tony_2018 hey you're welcome! Yeah I know the recall hasn't happened yet but figured it would be good to tell everyone what's coming in the future! I know it's not completely "safe" but I'm disconnecting mine, looks like I'll have to undo all the connections since it's not just one fuse to disable it. Better than some 24 year old part becoming a claymoor mine in my face!

@JRCivic1 ya new parts are always good! The big question, how long before they actually supply the parts! This is gonna be interesting.. you're welcome for the find!
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 04:13 AM
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@TomCat39 Possible sticky if it comes into fruition?
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 03:25 PM
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Dammit. I was worried about this when I saw it in the news

Also honda has a lifetime warranty for all safety items. If your seatbelt has problems retracting now is the time to get it fixed for free


Bring in a copy of your owners manual, or show these photos of the owners manual and supplemental warranty booklet





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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 03:28 PM
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Oh I may have been ok. Says 95-99

Also does not list any vehicles models or fixes
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Old Dec 11, 2019 | 05:06 PM
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Wouldn't this possible recall also include other models including Acura during that time frame?
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Old Dec 12, 2019 | 08:10 AM
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We'll have to wait and see
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Old Dec 13, 2019 | 07:43 AM
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I am curious now about my integra jeez...and I've been pondering just getting a momo monte carlo wheel instead. But I was always curious about the airbags on the 90s era hondas. Since now I have two cars to deal with after dealing with my two 7th gen civics and my dad's accord
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Old Dec 13, 2019 | 08:38 AM
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Same for my sisters db.
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Dammit. I was worried about this when I saw it in the news

Also honda has a lifetime warranty for all safety items. If your seatbelt has problems retracting now is the time to get it fixed for free
how does getting bad retracting belts fixed. As my name states just got into civics.
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Originally Posted by chrysler kid
Dammit. I was worried about this when I saw it in the news

Also honda has a lifetime warranty for all safety items. If your seatbelt has problems retracting now is the time to get it fixed for free
how does getting bad retracting belts fixed. As my name states just got into civics.
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That is only Honda USA. If you are in Canada, they do not have the same warranty setup for seat belts or safety equipment. Only recall items.
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Old Jan 1, 2020 | 01:43 PM
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Honda USA has a lifetime warranty on all safety restraint systems.

I've had 2 of my hx civics fixed free because the seatbelt wouldn't retract on its own
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Honda USA has a lifetime warranty on all safety restraint systems.

I've had 2 of my hx civics fixed free because the seatbelt wouldn't retract on its own
I was told by one of the local service managers that this is only for cars up to 05. They replaced my driver's seatbelt in my pos 96 sedan free of charge but it was legit frayed.

Also you guys saying you're going to disconnect your airbags are dumb. The bags in my 99 sedan went off on Thanksgiving when someone turned in front of me and it was no big deal. Just a lot of nasty dust and smoke which I immediately threw open both front doors and jumped out.
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I was told by one of the local service managers that this is only for cars up to 05. They replaced my driver's seatbelt in my pos 96 sedan free of charge but it was legit frayed.

Also you guys saying you're going to disconnect your airbags are dumb. The bags in my 99 sedan went off on Thanksgiving when someone turned in front of me and it was no big deal. Just a lot of nasty dust and smoke which I immediately threw open both front doors and jumped out.

kinda of hilarious that your "local service managers" knows what's going to be recalled when my original post stated that Honda knows the production dates reported to NHTSA but will know exactly which ones are recalled by the end of this month. My post was to alert everyone that the recall would affect the 96-2000 crowd.. But somehow your local service manager knows more than Honda, too funny. I posted this because airbags CAN be a life saving feature, but yet you feel the need to call me dumb. Oh and you failed to read that this is for production dates of late 95 to 99.. Hmm.. not even close to the year 2005..

Well let's see here.. a defective air bag (hence a RECALL) can send shrapnel into the neck (think claymoor mine) of the driver when deployed, but it's dumb to disconnect such a defective part?! People have already been killed by these junk parts Takata made but you have fun relying on defective parts that can kill you in your own vehicle. I don't think I'll rely on a defective part and take the logical and correct path to remove such a risk but thanks for your opinion to rely on defective safety equipment. Wow, just wow..
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Old Jan 2, 2020 | 04:37 PM
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Been watching auto makers adding models and years to this list for so long was thinking it might come to this - Thx for the post!

Also been trying to find replacement for drivers side seatbelts just cuz they don't function any more. Dealers will actually replace them even though that part is no longer available?
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Old Jan 3, 2020 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by oneheadlight
kinda of hilarious that your "local service managers" knows what's going to be recalled when my original post stated that Honda knows the production dates reported to NHTSA but will know exactly which ones are recalled by the end of this month. My post was to alert everyone that the recall would affect the 96-2000 crowd.. But somehow your local service manager knows more than Honda, too funny. I posted this because airbags CAN be a life saving feature, but yet you feel the need to call me dumb. Oh and you failed to read that this is for production dates of late 95 to 99.. Hmm.. not even close to the year 2005..

Well let's see here.. a defective air bag (hence a RECALL) can send shrapnel into the neck (think claymoor mine) of the driver when deployed, but it's dumb to disconnect such a defective part?! People have already been killed by these junk parts Takata made but you have fun relying on defective parts that can kill you in your own vehicle. I don't think I'll rely on a defective part and take the logical and correct path to remove such a risk but thanks for your opinion to rely on defective safety equipment. Wow, just wow..
No hes saying honda stopped doing the seat belt thing after 2005. They will still service and replace a defective seatbelt on cars older than 2005, after 05 they do not carry the lifetime safety warranty like the old cars

Hes not referring to the airbag in his post

Also to clarify, the recall does not specify that our cars are affected.
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Additional documents related to Takata airbag recall

General NHTSA Equipment Query Investigation
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/201...19002-4318.PDF

In this December 16, 2019 document, the NHTSA informs Audi, BMW, Honda, Toyota, and Mitsubishi of the purpose of their investigation. Specifically:
1) to identify the specific makes, models and model years that were produced with defective Takata driver inflators
2) to ensure that, if they are not already, all vehicles manufactured with defective inflators are recalled on a timely basis
3) to ensure that any vehicle which could have had a defective inflator installed in conjunction with a service repair procedure is
inspected to ensure it does not contain a defective inflator.

NHTSA Equipment Query to Honda
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/inv/201...9002-12189.pdf
This December 18, 2019 NHTSA letter sent to Honda makes Honda aware of the potential safety defect and reminds Honda of their responsibility under Federal Law.

*Note that on the January 17, 2020 deadline, Honda could possibly send the NHTSA information indicating that none of its 1995-2000 vehicles had defective Takata airbag inflators.
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Originally Posted by chrysler kid
Dammit. I was worried about this when I saw it in the news

Also honda has a lifetime warranty for all safety items. If your seatbelt has problems retracting now is the time to get it fixed for free
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That is only Honda USA. If you are in Canada, they do not have the same warranty setup for seat belts or safety equipment. Only recall items.
Originally Posted by chrysler kid
Honda USA has a lifetime warranty on all safety restraint systems.

I've had 2 of my hx civics fixed free because the seatbelt wouldn't retract on its own
The dealership near me would not replace mine in my 2000 Civic LX even though every single one had retracting issues, so I had to buy them all.
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Old Jan 4, 2020 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Freedo_Civegra
The dealership near me would not replace mine in my 2000 Civic LX even though every single one had retracting issues, so I had to buy them all.
I had the same issue. After calling three different Honda dealers in Houston, only one of them would do the warranty service. I gave them a glowing review on Google.
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Old Jan 4, 2020 | 04:36 PM
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I had the same issue. After calling three different Honda dealers in Houston, only one of them would do the warranty service. I gave them a glowing review on Google.
Good job.

The parts guy I had spoken with when I had originally called about ordering the seatbelts told me that they replace them for free and told me to ride out so that they could verify the issues and order the proper parts, so I did. When I walked into the service department, the guy had a sh!tty attitude and said that they don't do that. I told him that I wasnt looking for anything for free and had originally called their parts department and was told by them that they did free replace and that I needed to ride out to have it looked at. His attitude got better, but he was still a horse's behind.

I asked him if he had ever seen a civic like mine, and he rolled his eyes, walked over to the door, and said, "Holy ****! You guys come look at this!" He really got friendly after that. Lol

Over $500 later, I had all new belts and buckles.
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Originally Posted by Freedo_Civegra
Good job.

The parts guy I had spoken with when I had originally called about ordering the seatbelts told me that they replace them for free and told me to ride out so that they could verify the issues and order the proper parts, so I did. When I walked into the service department, the guy had a sh!tty attitude and said that they don't do that. I told him that I wasnt looking for anything for free and had originally called their parts department and was told by them that they did free replace and that I needed to ride out to have it looked at. His attitude got better, but he was still a horse's behind.

I asked him if he had ever seen a civic like mine, and he rolled his eyes, walked over to the door, and said, "Holy ****! You guys come look at this!" He really got friendly after that. Lol

Over $500 later, I had all new belts and buckles.
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Old Jan 4, 2020 | 08:03 PM
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I had the same issue with my local Honda dealership, they only replaced the buckle, but not the belt which was retracting slowly and has some mild fraying on it. They just told me to clean the belt. I haven't pursued it further as it's my brother's responsibility.

The acura dealership across the street had no issues replacing two integra driver seat belts on 2 separate occasions for 2 different integras. But that dealership is under new ownership now and Im not sure how things are going to be there now with regards to servicing the seatbelts again in the future.
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