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No ecu signal to injectors 1,3,4

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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 01:29 PM
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Default No ecu signal to injectors 1,3,4

I have a 93 civic with a d15 and a p28 ecu with a skunk2 manifold as the only mod to the car it is not tuned by the way i cant seem to get 3 of my injectors to fire up i have a new fuel pump ,new injectors , new fuel filters ive check the 3 grounding points VALVE COVER .THERMOSTAT.TRANNY. ALL GOOD AND CLEAN I HAVE CHECKED FOR GROUND GROUND AT ECU PINS A24 AND A23 EVETHING IS GOOD THERE I CONNECT A TEST LIGHT TO THE POSTIVE POST ON MY BATTERY AND CHECHECKED FOR PULSE AT THE ECU SIDE OF THE FUEL INJECTOR WIRES ! WITH THE KEY POSTION ON THE ON (|) POSTION MY ECU WILL LIGHT UP THE TEST LIGHT FROM THE FUEL INJECTOR GROUND WIRES I TURN THE KEY TO THE ON(||) I LOSE THE LIGHT ON MY TEST LIGHT WHEN CRANKING INJECTOR NUMBER 2 IS THE ONLY ONE FIREING ALSO HAVE LOW TO NO SPARK IN 2 CYLINDERS . ONLY WAY I CAN VET THE CAR TO TUEN ON IS JUMPING THE 3 WIRES TO THE INJECTOR 2 PULSE ALTHOUGH IT BACK FIRES ALOT WHEN I PRESS ON THE THROTTLE ANY HELP IS APPRECIATED THANKS .

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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 03:46 PM
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Default Re: No ecu signal to injectors 1,3,4

There are so many possiblities of what could be bad: the crank sensor is in the distributor which provides the signal to the ecu for the injectors to fire, the drivers to the injectors in the ecu could be fried: the main relay is integral in firing the injectors so either start like you have at the injectors and ensure you have constant pwr on one wire and and a pulse ground from the ecu on the other(are different color wires--pwr wires are same color) and work your way back to the ecu and then with a schematic check inputs at ecu-- me I would get a known good distributor, a good working ecu and good working main relay and if nothing changes then I would look for a wiring problem but hey that's me. What is your CEL light doing--does it go out as it should or does it stay on--this is another clue which usually points to ecu or main relay problem if it stays on(then again could be the wiring to them) Has it been running up to now or never ran--check timing
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Old Dec 4, 2019 | 06:03 PM
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Default Re: No ecu signal to injectors 1,3,4

Injectors go from ECU through tower plug C101 onto the individual injector connector on the injector itself. I would check to see that all is well at plug C101 first and then go from there. I say this being you said you are getting signal to one of the 4 injectors, so ECU seems to be operating as well as the distributor is giving signal and spark on all 4 etc.

Left Tower   
C101Tower Harness4 pin Grey 
C102Tower Harness10 pin Grey 
C103Tower Harness14 pin Grey 
C129 (VX)Tower Harness6 pin Grey 
    
Right Tower   
C124Tower Harness2 pin Grey(Power)
C125Engine Harness8 pin GreyJunction
C126Tower Harness14 pin Grey 
    
C108Coolant Temp send unit  
C109ECT2 pin Grey 
C111O24 pin GreyAll but VX
C111O28 pin GreyVX
C117EVAP2 pin Grey 
C112VSS3 pin Grey 
C114TPS3 pin Grey 
C115IACV2 pin Grey 
C116IAT2 pin White 
C106Distributor2 pin GreyIgn Coil
C107Distributor8 pin GreyTDC/CKP/CYP
C104Starter Solenoid1 pin Black 
C119Alternator4 pin Green 
C127Vtec Solenoid1 pin GreyVX/EX/Si
C128Vtec Pressure2 pin GreenVX/EX/Si
C130EGR Lift Sensor3 pin GreyVX
C113MAP3 pin GreyCX/VX/EX/Si (CDM EX-V)
C201MAP3 pin GreyDX/LX (93 Firewall)
C404ECM26 pin Grey 
C405ECM16 pin Grey 
C406ECM22 pin Grey 
C120Injector 1 (A1)2 pin Grey 
C121Injector 2 (A3)2 pin Grey 
C122Injector 3 (A4)2 pin Grey 
C123Injector 4 (A2)2 pin Grey 
C118Oil Pressure Switch1 pin Black 
C110MT Backup Lght Switch2 pin Grey 
C110AT Lock up Solenoid2 pin Grey 
    
Non VXLabelWire ColorsRoute/Connections
C101-1ECU InjectorsRedC404-2 Red ECU A3 to C121-1 Red Injector 2
C101-2ECU InjectorsBrnC404-1 Brn ECU A1 to C120-1 Brn Injector 1
C101-3ECU InjectorsYelC404-14 Yel ECU A2 to C123-1 Yel Injector 4
C101-4ECU InjectorsLt BluC404-3 Lt Blu ECU A5 to C122-1 Lt Blu Injector 3
    
C102-1Ground ECU/G101Brn/BlkC405-9 Brn/Blk ECU B2 to G101 Brn/Blk
C102-2O2 SensorWhtC406-18 Wht ECU D14 O2 Input to C111-1 Wht O2 Signal
C102-3Ground ECU/G101Blk/RedC404-26 Blk/Red ECU A26 Ground to G101 Blk/Red
C102-4ECU CYP/DistributorOrnC405-6 Orn ECU CYP B11 to C107-4 Orn Distributor CYP
C102-5ECU CYP/DistributorWhtC405-14 Wht ECU CYP B12 to C107-8 Wht Distributor CYP
C102-6ECU TDC/DistributorOrn/BluC405-7 Orn/Blu ECU TDC B13 to C107-3 Orn/Blu
C102-7ECU TDC/DistributorWht/BluC405-15 Wht/Blu ECU TDC B14 to C107-7 Wht/Blu
C102-8ECU CKP/DistributorBlu/GrnC405-8 Blu/Grn ECU CKP B15 to C107-2 Blu/Grn
C102-9ECU CKP/DistributorBlu/YelC405-16 Blu/Yel ECU CKP B16 to C107-6 Blu/Yel
C102-10   
    
C103-1   
C103-2O2 ECU groundOrn/BlkC111-4 Orn/Blk O2 Heater to C404-16 Orn/Blk ECU A6 Heater control (ground)
C103-3Vtec SolenoidOrn/Wht - Grn/YelC404-15 Orn/Wht ECU A4 Vtec Solenoid to C127-1 Grn/Yel Vtec Solenoid
C103-4MAP signalGrn/Blu - Grn/WhtC406-11 Grn/Blu ECU D21 MAP input to C113-2 Grn/Wht MAP
C103-5MAP groundPnk/Wht - WhtC406-9 Pnk/Wht ECU D17 sensor ground to C113-3 Wht MAP
C103-6MAP ref voltYel/Grn - Yel/RedC406-10 Yel/Grn ECU D19 reference voltage to C113-1 Yel/Red MAP
C103-7Vtec Pressure SwitchOrn/Blu - Blu/BlkC406-14 Orn/Blu ECU D6 Vtec pressure switch input to C128-1 Blu/Blk Vtec pressure switch
C103-8TPS signalPnk/Blk - Red/BluC406-6 Pnk/Blk ECU D11 TPS input to C114-2 Red/Blu TPS
C103-9ECU Sensor GroundGrn/WhtC406-22 Grn/Wht ECU D22 Sensor Ground to C111-2 (O2 Signal|), C109-2 (ECT), C116-1 (IAT), C114-1 (TPS), C424-2 (Service Connector) (All Grn/Wht)
C103-10TPS ref voltYel/WhtC406-21 Yel/Wht ECU D20 TPS reference voltage to C114-3 Yel/Wht TPS
C103-11Ignition Output SignalRed/Grn - Yel/GrnC404-11 Red/Grn ECU A21 and C404-24 Red/Green ECU A22 Ignition Output Signal to C107-1 Yel/Grn Distributor
C103-12IATRed/YelC406-8 Red/Yel ECU D15 IAT input to C116-2 Red/Yel IAT
C103-13ECTRed/WhtC406-7 Red/Wht ECU D13 ECT input to C109-1 Red/Wht ECT
C103-14   
    
C111-1O2 SignalWhtC102-2 Wht Tower Plug (C102-2 Wht goes to C406-18 ECU D14 O2 Input
C111-2O2 SignalGrn - Grn/WhtO2 Grn to C103-9 Grn/Wht Tower Plug (C103-9 goes to C406-22 ECU D22 sensor Ground)
C111-3O2 Heater PowerYel/Blk - BlkC125-6 Yel/Blk Power Junction to O2 Blk Heater
C111-4O2 Heater GroundGrn/BlkO2 Blk Heater to C103-2 Grn/Blk Tower Plug (C103-2 goes to C404-16 ECU A6 Heater Control)
    
C124-1   
C124-2   
    
C125-1Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC122-2 Yel/Blk (Injector 3)
C125-2Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC121-2 Yel/Blk (Injector 2)
C125-3Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC120-2 Yel/Blk (Injector 1)
C125-4Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC126-12 Yel/Blk
C125-5Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC115-2 Yel/Blk (IACV)
C125-6Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC111-3 Yel/Blk (HO2 Heater)
C125-7Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC117-1 Yel/Blk (EVAP)
C125-8Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC123-2 Yel/Blk (Injector 4)
    
C126-1   
C126-2   
C126-3EVAPRed - Red/Blk (Coupe-Red)C117-2 Red EVAP Valve to C302-5 Red/Blk (Coupe-Red) Cabin Harness to ECU
C126-4IACVBlu/Yel - Grn/WhiteC115-1 Blu/Yel IACV to C302-2 Grn/Wht Cabin Harness to ECU
C126-5VSSBlk/Yel - Yel/BluC302-3 Blk/Yel Cabin Harness (From Fuse Box) to C112-2 Yel/Blu VSS
C126-6VSSYel/Blu - Yel/WhtC302-8 Yel/Blu Cabin Harness (From ECU B10) to C112-3 Yel/Wht VSS
C126-7   
C126-8   
C126-9   
C126-10   
C126-11   
C126-12 Yel/Blk C302-13(Main Relay) - C125-4 Yel/Blk
C126-13   
C126-14   
    
VXLabelWire ColorsRoute/Connections
C101-1ECU InjectorsRedC404-2 Red ECU A3 to C121-1 Red Injector 2
C101-2ECU InjectorsBrnC404-1 Brn ECU A1 to C120-1 Brn Injector 1
C101-3ECU InjectorsYelC404-14 Yel ECU A2 to C123-1 Yel Injector 4
C101-4ECU InjectorsLt BluC404-3 Lt Blu ECU A5 to C122-1 Lt Blu Injector 3
    
C102-1Ground ECU/G101Brn/BlkC405-9 Brn/Blk ECU B2 to G101 Brn/Blk
C102-2   
C102-3Ground ECU/G101Blk/RedC404-26 Blk/Red ECU A26 Ground to G101 Blk/Red
C102-4ECU CYP/DistributorOrnC405-6 Orn ECU CYP B11 to C107-4 Orn Distributor CYP
C102-5ECU CYP/DistributorWhtC405-14 Wht ECU CYP B12 to C107-8 Wht Distributor CYP
C102-6ECU TDC/DistributorOrn/BluC405-7 Orn/Blu ECU TDC B13 to C107-3 Orn/Blu
C102-7ECU TDC/DistributorWht/BluC405-15 Wht/Blu ECU TDC B14 to C107-7 Wht/Blu
C102-8ECU CKP/DistributorBlu/GrnC405-8 Blu/Grn ECU CKP B15 to C107-2 Blu/Grn
C102-9ECU CKP/DistributorBlu/YelC405-16 Blu/Yel ECU CKP B16 to C107-6 Blu/Yel
C102-10   
    
C103-1   
C103-2O2 ECU powerOrn/Blk-Yel/BlkC404-16 Orn/Blk ECU A6 Heater Control (power) to C111-1 Yel/Blk O2 Heater
C103-3VTECOrn/Wht - Grn/YelC404-15 Grn/Wht ECU A4 Vtec Solenoid Control to C127-1 Grn/Yel Vtec Solenoid
C103-4ECU MAPGrn/Blu - Grn/WhtC404-11 Grn/Blu ECU D21 to C113-2 Grn/Wht MAP
C103-5ECU MAPPnk/Wht - WhtC404-9 Pnk/Wht ECU D17 to C113-3 Wht MAP
C103-6ECU MAPYel/Grn - Yel/RedC404-10 Yel/Grn ECU D19 to C113-1 Yel/Red MAP
C103-7VTECOrn/Blu - Blu/BlkC404-14 Orn/Blu ECU D6 Vtec Pressure Switch Input to C128-1 Blu/Blk Vtec Pressure Switch
C103-8ECU TPS inputPnk/Blk - Red/BluC405-6 Pnk/Blk ECU to C114-2 Red/Blu TPS
C103-9ECU Sensors groundGrn/WhtC111-3(O2 Heater2),C130-1(EGR Lift Sensor),C114-1(TPS),C116-1(AIT),C109-2(ECT),C424-2(Service Check Connector) (All Grn/Wht)
C103-10ECU Refence VoltageYel/WhtC406-21 Yel/Wht ECU to C114-3 Yel/Wht TPS
C103-11ECU Igntion Output SignalRed/Grn - Yel/GrnC404-24 Red/Grn ECU A22 and C404-11 Red/Grn ECU A21 to C107-1 Yel/Grn Distributor ICM
C103-12ECU IAT InputRed/YelC406-8 Red/Yel ECU to C116-2 Red/Yel IAT
C103-13ECU ECT InputRed/WhtC406-7 Red/Wht ECU to C109-1 Red/Wht ECT
C103-14   
    
C129-1LT EGRYel/WhtC406-21 Yel/Wht Ecu Reference Voltage EGR/TPS D20 to C130-3 Yel/Wht EGR lift sensor
C129-2LT O2Wht/BluC406-15 Wht/Blu Ecu O2 Sensor Input D8 to C111-6 Wht/Blu - Red
C129-3LT O2Blu/Yel - WhtC406-2 Blu/Yel Ecu O2 Heater D3 to C111-4 Wht
C129-4LT EGRWht/BlkC406-17 Wht/Blk Ecu EGR lift sensor input D12 to C130-2 Wht/Blk Egr lift sensor
C129-5LT O2Blu/Grn - OrnC406-19 Blu/Grn Ecu O2 Signal Ground D16 to C111-8 Orn - Blk
C129-6LT O2Orn/BluC406-18 Orn/Blu Ecu O2 Sensor Input D14 to C111-7 Orn/Blu - Wht
    
C111-1O2 Poweryel/Blk - OrnC103-2 Orn/Blk - Yel/Blk to O2 Heater 1 - C404-16 ECU A6 to O2
C111-2O2 GroundYel - BlkG101 - O2 Heater to G101
C111-3O2 GroundBlk - Grn/WhtC103-9 Grn/Wht O2 Heater - C406-22 ECU (Sensor Ground)
C111-4O2 PowerWhtC129-3 Blu/Yel - Wht to O2 Heater 2 - C406-2 ECU to O2
C111-5O2  
C111-6O2 SignalWht/Blu - RedC129-2 Wht/Blu to O2 Signal - C406-15 ECU to O2
C111-7O2 SignalOrn/Blu - WhtC129-6 Orn/Blu to O2 Signal - C406-18 ECU to O2
C111-8O2 SignalOrn - BlkC129-5 Blu/Grn - Orn to O2 Signal - C406-19 ECU to O2
    
C124-1   
C124-2   
    
C125-1Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC122-2 Yel/Blk (Injector 3)
C125-2Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC121-2 Yel/Blk (Injector 2)
C125-3Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC120-2 Yel/Blk (Injector 1)
C125-4Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC126-12 Yel/Blk
C125-5Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC115-2 Yel/Blk (IACV)
C125-6   
C125-7Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC117-1 Yel/Blk (EVAP)
C125-8Junction (Power)Yel/BlkC123-2 Yel/Blk (Injector 4)
    
C126-1   
C126-2   
C126-3EVAPRed - Red/Blk (Coupe-Red)C117-2 Red EVAP Valve to C302-5 Red/Blk (Coupe-Red) Cabin Harness to ECU
C126-4IACVBlu/Yel - Grn/WhiteC115-1 Blu/Yel IACV to C302-2 Grn/Wht Cabin Harness to ECU
C126-5VSSBlk/Yel - Yel/BluC112-2 Yel/Blu VSS to C302-3 Blk/Yel Cabin Harness to Power (Fusebox)
C126-6VSSYel/Wht - Yel/BluC112-3 Yel/Wht VSS to C302-8 Yel/Blu Cabin Harness to ECU/CCU/Gauges
C126-7   
C126-8   
C126-9   
C126-10   
C126-11   
C126-12 Yel/BlkC302-13(Main Relay) - C125-4 Yel/Blk
C126-13   
C126-14   
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