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Old Jan 2, 2019 | 11:40 AM
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I have a mini me swap on my 99 Civic, z6 head with d15b7 block. I've been trying to tackle this problem I've had since I've gotten the car, the engine does not do "cold start" and won't do the high idle like most cars do when unstart it. I have to warm it up myself before being able to drive it because if I don't it just stalls. I might be missing something but give me some pounters of where to check, iac has power btw. Thanks 👌
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Old Jan 2, 2019 | 12:49 PM
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Post the CEL codes that return after resetting the ECU.
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 05:12 PM
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Does your ECU model and harness wiring match the IACV? There are two kinds of IACVs, two wire and three wire.
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 06:15 PM
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I've tried connecting with the ecu with a obd2 scanner and wouldn't connect (Bluetooth one, probably trash) and it's a obd2 harness with obd1 p28, it's a 2 wire connected to my z6 inatke and iacv
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 06:17 PM
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I've tried connecting with the ecu with a obd2 scanner and wouldn't connect (Bluetooth one, probably trash) and it's a obd2 harness with obd1 p28, it's a 2 wire connected to my z6 inatke and iacv
An OBD1 ECU will not communicate with an OBD2 code reader. Short the 2-pin service connector above the ECU to pull the codes.

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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 06:25 PM
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OBD1 ECU will not communicate with an OBD2 code reader. Short the 2-pin service connector above the ECU to pull the codes.
Okay, to pull the codes is it the flash type on the dash or does it come up to the reader? Cuz my dash check engine light does not come on
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Old Jan 3, 2019 | 06:56 PM
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Okay, to pull the codes is it the flash type on the dash or does it come up to the reader? Cuz my dash check engine light does not come on
A previous owner likely removed the CEL bulb. Remove the cluster to check that. Install a bulb from a working cluster warning light to watch the CEL blink the stored codes with the service connector shorted with a paperclip. Then clear the codes by removing the the hood Backup fuse for 5 minutes. Run engine to determine which codes repeat.
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Does your throttle body have the FITV below it? OBD2 civic’s control cold idle through the IACV while OBD1 have mechanical conrol via FITV.
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Old Jan 4, 2019 | 12:20 PM
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Pulled codes and it's readujg code 6 so I'ma try getting a ECT sensor and see if that works
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Does your throttle body have the FITV below it? OBD2 civic’s control cold idle through the IACV while OBD1 have mechanical conrol via FITV.
No it's a y8 tb, I do have z6 one from a swap I bought, should I go ahead slap it on?
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Old Jan 4, 2019 | 01:04 PM
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Try the z6 if you are running obd1 ecu.
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Bad ECT can cause cold start issues.
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Old Jan 4, 2019 | 07:19 PM
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Bad ECT can cause cold start issues.
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Old Jan 5, 2019 | 12:51 PM
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Okay I put my z6 with the fast idle valve and it does way much beyyer, I'ma try it for a while and give an update, thank u guys
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Old Jan 5, 2019 | 01:35 PM
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Never mind it was great till after a while it was idling lower and lower to the point that at a light or if I just let it idle it will just die and turning it on is also an ***, I don't know what it could be at this point
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Old Jan 5, 2019 | 02:31 PM
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Why zero mention of fixing code 6?
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Old Jan 5, 2019 | 04:48 PM
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Why zero mention of fixing code 6?
Oh I fixed it forgot to mention it
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Old Jan 5, 2019 | 05:18 PM
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I've noticed that as the car warms up idle goes down (obviously) but it keeps going lower and lower then won't stay on
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Old Jan 5, 2019 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RicerBoi16
I've noticed that as the car warms up idle goes down (obviously) but it keeps going lower and lower then won't stay on
Unplug the IACV, and adjust the base idle speed.
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Old Jan 5, 2019 | 11:33 PM
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Unplug the IACV, and adjust the base idle speed.
Will do tomorrow 👍 it did good on cold start, it idles high as **** (2700) but then goes down to idle then dead lol😂 thanks for ur help tho
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Old Jan 6, 2019 | 11:39 AM
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Ajusted idle speed and it's doing better, it's not stalling anymore but does idle pretty low, then goes to 700 something, but its my daily so im going to see how this goes, I'll give an update on how it goes, thanks
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Old Jan 7, 2019 | 07:40 AM
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Base idle should be around 480 +\- 50 (iacv unugged) then reset ecu by pulling backup fuse in ebay, turn on let idle for one minute with no accessories (750+- rpms)then turn on head lights idle for 1 minute, then turn off headlights and turn on ac and let idle one minute. You have now reset your idle. Also, coolant level and tenp will affect idke.

Also, if your O2 sesnsor is old and poor it will cause rough idle, i spent weeks trying to track down my idle problems and it turned out to be my O2 sensor all along.
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Old Jan 8, 2019 | 01:58 PM
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Base idle should be around 480 +\- 50 (iacv unugged) then reset ecu by pulling backup fuse in ebay, turn on let idle for one minute with no accessories (750+- rpms)then turn on head lights idle for 1 minute, then turn off headlights and turn on ac and let idle one minute. You have now reset your idle. Also, coolant level and tenp will affect idke.

Also, if your O2 sesnsor is old and poor it will cause rough idle, i spent weeks trying to track down my idle problems and it turned out to be my O2 sensor all along.
Okay the o sensor could be my reason it's throwing a code and I looked it up and saw it said heater oxygen sensor, as far as I know I only have one and that's where the cat is, I have no ac ps or heater and I have dc headers so it don't have the front o sensor. Also it's saying iacv which I don't know why it's throwing that code when iac is in good shape
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 10:11 AM
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The dc header will relocate the o2 sensor to the collector area, make sure you didn’t swap the iacv plug with a different plug or that its plugged in all the way. If those check out, your iacv could have crapped out, best to visit the local scrap yard and just pocket one.
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 08:18 PM
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Well another code popped up and it's for eld, everything is pulsing and rhe thing it self cost 30 something, just go to junk yard and take a couple, I swear this Civic gives me problems but I love it/hate it. Could explain some of my issues
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