GSR Swap Smoking
Hey guys,
I've posted on here a couple of times about this issue now and have gotten no response from anyone. I'm going to try one more time, before I reach out to my local shop to see what they think.
I have a 1997 Integra LS that I swapped a OBD2A GSR engine into. At the time of the swap, I also upgraded the intake manifold and throttle body to a Skunk2 along with an AEM fuel rail. After the swap, I noticed the car would smoke under load, in VTEC and just after I came to a stop.
So, in doing a compression test, the two adjacent cylinders 2 and 3 had lower compression than 1 and 4. I replaced the head gasket with a Cometic, and installed ARP headstuds along with new valve seals and the o-ring on VTEC port.
It STILL smoked, and doing another compression test, I got 235-240-240-235 across the cylinders.
I thought maybe something might be up with my PCV system, so I replaced it all with a 4-port catch can system (overkill, I know. But I wanted something I could use if I ever decided to go boost, anyways).
Unfortunately, I'm still smoking. But I don't know how much oil I'm actually burning yet as today is the first day I've really driven it. I will post any updates this week, as I drive it more. But I was hoping somebody might have some insight on it. One thing to note is that I had to pin the ECU when I did the swap, due to not having the harness between the engine harness and the ECU (the one that runs through the firewall).
Any suggestions or advice is appreciated.
Thank you,
I've posted on here a couple of times about this issue now and have gotten no response from anyone. I'm going to try one more time, before I reach out to my local shop to see what they think.
I have a 1997 Integra LS that I swapped a OBD2A GSR engine into. At the time of the swap, I also upgraded the intake manifold and throttle body to a Skunk2 along with an AEM fuel rail. After the swap, I noticed the car would smoke under load, in VTEC and just after I came to a stop.
So, in doing a compression test, the two adjacent cylinders 2 and 3 had lower compression than 1 and 4. I replaced the head gasket with a Cometic, and installed ARP headstuds along with new valve seals and the o-ring on VTEC port.
It STILL smoked, and doing another compression test, I got 235-240-240-235 across the cylinders.
I thought maybe something might be up with my PCV system, so I replaced it all with a 4-port catch can system (overkill, I know. But I wanted something I could use if I ever decided to go boost, anyways).
Unfortunately, I'm still smoking. But I don't know how much oil I'm actually burning yet as today is the first day I've really driven it. I will post any updates this week, as I drive it more. But I was hoping somebody might have some insight on it. One thing to note is that I had to pin the ECU when I did the swap, due to not having the harness between the engine harness and the ECU (the one that runs through the firewall).
Any suggestions or advice is appreciated.
Thank you,
What color is the smoke? Black, Blue, White?
Also did you retorque your headstuds after a few heat cycles? I have read other posts where they can come loose after a couple heat cycles.
Also did you retorque your headstuds after a few heat cycles? I have read other posts where they can come loose after a couple heat cycles.
And no, I have not retorqued the headstuds yet, I probably only had the car running twice since I installed them. But it was smoking the first time I started it after installing them. So, that's not the issue.
Update: I drove the car all day yesterday, still smoking but not every time I accelerate/hit VTEC. And I did not lose any oil at all. I forgot to mention that the car is in fact straight-piped.
Healthy Compression doesn't always directly correlate with a lack of cylinder blow by. The compression rings and oil control ring are entirely separate piston rings.
Your piston rings (oil control) may be worn, tired or losing tension. Your cylinders maybe glazed over/ polished smooth (lacking the factory cross hatch) or slightly worn/scratched/ovaled...
There could be a slight chance that there is still a small issue causing the oil burning that you are hoping for, but more than likely, you are going to need a cylinder hone and piston re-ring (aka an engine rebuild)...
Your piston rings (oil control) may be worn, tired or losing tension. Your cylinders maybe glazed over/ polished smooth (lacking the factory cross hatch) or slightly worn/scratched/ovaled...
There could be a slight chance that there is still a small issue causing the oil burning that you are hoping for, but more than likely, you are going to need a cylinder hone and piston re-ring (aka an engine rebuild)...
Healthy Compression doesn't always directly correlate with a lack of cylinder blow by. The compression rings and oil control ring are entirely separate piston rings.
Your piston rings (oil control) may be worn, tired or losing tension. Your cylinders maybe glazed over/ polished smooth (lacking the factory cross hatch) or slightly worn/scratched/ovaled...
There could be a slight chance that there is still a small issue causing the oil burning that you are hoping for, but more than likely, you are going to need a cylinder hone and piston re-ring (aka an engine rebuild)...
Your piston rings (oil control) may be worn, tired or losing tension. Your cylinders maybe glazed over/ polished smooth (lacking the factory cross hatch) or slightly worn/scratched/ovaled...
There could be a slight chance that there is still a small issue causing the oil burning that you are hoping for, but more than likely, you are going to need a cylinder hone and piston re-ring (aka an engine rebuild)...
Try to drain the oil, and pour a can of engine restore 4 cyl formula from autozone, trust me it works and I bet it will greatly reduce the smoking and raise the compression, trust me and try it! pour the can and use fresh oil on top. I use it on my daily EK civic every oil change and it never smokes and doesn't burn near as much oil as it did when I wasn't using it. It has 250K and runs strong as a bull! and used it on my my old GSR when it smoked it works miracles its worth a cheap shot! your prolly smoking cause your piston rings are worn and the cylinder walls are leaking blow by.
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Try to drain the oil, and pour a can of engine restore 4 cyl formula from autozone, trust me it works and I bet it will greatly reduce the smoking and raise the compression, trust me and try it! pour the can and use fresh oil on top. I use it on my daily EK civic every oil change and it never smokes and doesn't burn near as much oil as it did when I wasn't using it. It has 250K and runs strong as a bull! and used it on my my old GSR when it smoked it works miracles its worth a cheap shot! your prolly smoking cause your piston rings are worn and the cylinder walls are leaking blow by.
Just curious, if you pull off your intake is there oil residue on your throttle body? Your compression is pretty high and you could be getting some oil blow back into to the intake from the valve cover ( depending on your current setup) is this a NA or turbo car? If it’s a turbo car I’ve seen turbos blow oil and have the same results
Just curious, if you pull off your intake is there oil residue on your throttle body? Your compression is pretty high and you could be getting some oil blow back into to the intake from the valve cover ( depending on your current setup) is this a NA or turbo car? If it’s a turbo car I’ve seen turbos blow oil and have the same results
Here is my current setup. I've got two -10 AN lines coming from the valve cover and another two from the back of the block.
Healthy Compression doesn't always directly correlate with a lack of cylinder blow by. The compression rings and oil control ring are entirely separate piston rings.
Your piston rings (oil control) may be worn, tired or losing tension. Your cylinders maybe glazed over/ polished smooth (lacking the factory cross hatch) or slightly worn/scratched/ovaled...
There could be a slight chance that there is still a small issue causing the oil burning that you are hoping for, but more than likely, you are going to need a cylinder hone and piston re-ring (aka an engine rebuild)...
Your piston rings (oil control) may be worn, tired or losing tension. Your cylinders maybe glazed over/ polished smooth (lacking the factory cross hatch) or slightly worn/scratched/ovaled...
There could be a slight chance that there is still a small issue causing the oil burning that you are hoping for, but more than likely, you are going to need a cylinder hone and piston re-ring (aka an engine rebuild)...
I thought the same, those numbers are pretty high. What compression pistons are you running? 12.1 or something like that? I was thinking a stock b18c1 was around 210 per cylinder
As far as I know, it's just stock. It didn't look like it had anything special for pistons when I took the head off recently. I bought the swap from my brother out of a GSR with 160k miles on it. I opened the throttle body completely when I was cranking the engine for the compression test and I did it at operating temperature.
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