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Alert- It Is Now A $2750 Federal Fine To Remove Your Catalytic Converter

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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:17 PM
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Default Alert- It Is Now A $2750 Federal Fine To Remove Your Catalytic Converter

Under federal law, the maximum fine for removing a catalytic converter from a
vehicle is $2,750 per vehicle. The person who was responsible for taking the
catalyst off would also be required to put an appropriate catalyst back on.


here are some FAQ from the site http://www.epa.org-

I just thought you should all know because thats a lot of money!!!


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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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where is this at? cali?
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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man you guys in California get it bad.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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yep, thats why i have my catalytic on... theyre very strict about $hit like that here in cali
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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California.
home of the smog *****.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:44 PM
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California.
home of the smog *****.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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California.
home of the smog *****.
got that right.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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look at FBP Si 2000 and KAMiN's avatars....hehehe hhhmmm doughnuts, DOH!


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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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gutted stock cat does the trick if u really want to run one
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:47 PM
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gutted stock cat does the trick if u really want to run one
I was just going to get my cat heat shield welded on. Do you think it would work?
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 10:57 PM
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I got a Test pipe on my EG, and get inspected with it on...they dont give a crap here in Central PA about smog feel bad for you CA guys
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 11:23 PM
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Isn't it a federal offense to remove the cat? Meaning it applies to all 50 states? Oh well, they never check that sort of shiet here.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 11:26 PM
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w0w, expensive.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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California.
home of the smog *****.
Riiiiiiiight... Breathing fresh air is so over-rated!



This law applies to all 50 states and has been around since 1990.





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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 11:37 PM
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Default Re: Alert- It Is Now A $2750 Federal Fine To Remove Your Catalytic Converter (whitemike1644)

Under federal law, the maximum fine for removing a catalytic converter from a vehicle is $2,750 per vehicle...
Close! It's $2500 for an individual and up to $25000 for a dealer. That law has been around for over 12 years. If you want to read about it:

http://www.off-road.com/dodge/tech/Individual_Fines.htm
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 12:09 AM
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anyone know the laws for us texans, I have a downpipe with flex pipe on it so not cat for me, if its a big ole fine can I just put the heat shield over the text pipe to simulate the cat to pass visual?
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 12:11 AM
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Default Re: Alert- It Is Now A $2750 Federal Fine To Remove Your Catalytic Converter (foozball-26)

damn thats expensive as hell, im glad i live in south carolina... home of the mullet.
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 02:43 AM
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man you guys in California get it bad.
Like I said before you Californians have it rough.
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 02:55 AM
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Ahhh, I Florida
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 03:38 AM
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Default Re: Alert- It Is Now A $2750 Federal Fine To Remove Your Catalytic Converter (slowasshatch)

why do you guys think this is only Claifornia?

This is a FEDERAL LAW meaning all 50 states are included in th elaw.

As black deuce coupe mentioned, this law has been around for ages.

Old news, but always a nice refresher for those that didnt know.... it is a federal crime punichable in all 50 states.. scary huh? $3000 fine is not a nice thing, but it reflects how important catalytic converters are to the cars pollution control.
A cop that finds out you have removed/altered/gutted your cat will have a field day with you.... tow the car, impound it, etc. Have fun with that scenario.
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 04:49 AM
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Default Re: Alert- It Is Now A $2750 Federal Fine To Remove Your Catalytic Converter (whitemike1644)

Heh, we alabamians don't even have emmissions at this point. If we did, it seems like half the cars on the road wouldn't pass....
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 05:08 AM
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that's why there are high flow cats


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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 05:26 AM
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Default Re: Alert- It Is Now A $2750 Federal Fine To Remove Your Catalytic Converter (brcivic411)

that's they there are high flow cats
Yeah I got my 2.5'' CarSound cat (they make bigger ones) for $150.00 installed with flanges to meet my DC JDM 4-1 header.

Testpipes blow nuts IMO. They make your exhaust louder than if you have a cat, they help you burn more oil (that's bad!) and they are illegal. Is the small whp gains (and loss of low end) worth the trouble?
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 05:57 AM
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And why would you remove the catalytic converter? We are all responsible for taking care of the place we live. If you remove it then you should suffer the consequences. Or stick the tailpipe back into your car so you can breathe the nice exhaust fumes.
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Old Nov 12, 2002 | 06:03 AM
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Ok tree hugger ... do you think that a few people in the US not running cats is gonna hurt the o-zone anymore then THOUSANDS of japs and europeans not running cats and running leaded fuel....gimme a break,
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