Would it be worth it to turbo a d16 vtec? I mean, I'm a lil short on cash, but am not getting a car until january/february 2003, so i can make a little dough for an engine swap, but it would be so much cheaper to uprade a d16's internals, and turbocharge it (than to swap in a bseries, upgrade its internals, and turbocharge that).

 

Actually I'm about to do that myself. Having my raceshop replace/rebuild my internals/engine...I'll have a new engine with 170ish hp at the wheels from a SOHC. Then just throw in a nice little turbo kit and *presto* you've got a high 12 sec car :-P. All for about $4000, the price of a swap and cost of labor to have a b-series installed!

 

I think you're being a little unrealisitic. My buddy with a 95 Civic EX coupe just finished a BUILT B18B T3/TD04E Turbo Civic at 7.5 psi only runs 14. High 12's is a little unrealistic from the D16Z6 with just the Apexi kit. I know for a fact, because my other buddy has a D16Z6 with the Apexi kit (intercooled) at 6.5 psi only runs 15.5

 

It all depends on your setup I suppose. I'll get the link to site where the guy did the same to his SOHC + a turbo kit running like 9 psi and runs 11's in his hatch. Gota get link from a friend tho.

 

That's a hatch, you have a coupe at best (when i say best, i mean weight wise). I also imagine he's running on slicks.

 

So deduct the fact that he's using slicks + his weight, and replace it with the coupe, he'll probably run mid 13's then...complete sleeper.

 

where are you getting these numbers from? I think you're just making stuff up now.

 

Your friend with the B18B setup must be a shitty driver. Same with your other friend with the apexi kit. I have a friend that ran a 15.5 with his D16 stock in his 98 coupe. He now has it boosted at 9 psi running a 14.0 at 100MPH with a slipping cluctch on street tires.

 

Before accusing my friends of being shitty drivers, You should realize that we don't live at sea level. Here in Nebraska bolt on Civic Si's can't even crack into the 15's. I never said that it couldn't muster a a 14 second run, but I did say it's unrealistic to run 12's in a D16Z56 with a 15B or whatever the sad excuse for a turbo that Apexi decided to use on the lowest of the low turbo kit.

 

Ptran- The weight difference between a Hatch and a Coupe aint much to make a big difference.....

D16 respond well to boost, this one guy here in miami had an 98 EX with ALL stock internals, with a custom turbo setup, and boosted to i belive it was 10 psi, and ran 14.1.... so yea I believe with a built engine u can pull 13's easy.... DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE SINGLE CAM!!!!!

 

Civic hatch 2100 pounds, civic coupe 2400 pounds. Again a CUSTOM turbo setup, not the Apexi kit. The Apexi kit is a glorified blow dryer.

 

those are some REALLY slow times.

 

Come to Nebraska an tell me that. What do stock 6th Gen Si's run? Well they sure as hell can't get passed the 16 second mark here.

 

omg now THAT IS UNREALISTIC.....15.5 with 6.5psi?!?!?.....how about 15.5 with ZEROpsi

that's what my stock sohc runs,
but yeah i do agree 12's on a mildly built sohc is iffy?

 

How is that unrealistic? It's a 95 Civic EX Sedan Automatic, with a full interior, 17 inch wheels, powersteering and a/c.

 

If all of you guys claim to run 15.5's with your D16Y8, then run me with my 92 CX with a B18B1.

 

no prob..
I will run you with my little ol d16z6!!!
how much we talking???

(nevermond my signature )

Brian

 

Okay, I should have been a little more specific. Anyone with a STOCK D16Z6 claiming to run 15.5. Besides you didn't claim to run a 15.5

 

My 93 CX w/ a D16Z6 pulled a 15.8 with exhaust. Now with my GReddy kit, I'm just waiting to go get times.

 

You have a CX with the D16. He has a coupe with the D16, and you couldn't manage to get 15.5 according to their logic, YOU'RE SLOW or a shitty driver

 

Forget the slow times of the other cars, i want to know how you figure that you will have 170ish whp from just building your engine.Please elaborate a little on this, i'm curious to find out who has told you a lie...

 

here's two cases
1) my car 5g coupe b16a2 ran a 13.7 on 8psi of boost, stock internals.
2) another 5g coupe (a guy i ran into at a show) fully built d16 ran 13.6 on 16psi of boost.

16psi is some serious boost and to only run 13.6.That is the route i was able to take,money plays the biggest factor in most peoples decisions so in your case yes it wouls be worth turbo'ing.If you are keeping the stock engine (or any engine) i always recomend going turbo over any other option (bolt-on,sc,n20)..

 

2 Door EX Coupe= 2231lbs
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1994/hon...tml?id=lin0066

3 Door Cx Hatch= 2108lbs
http://www.edmunds.com/used/1994/hon...tml?id=lin0066

Now Tell me do you see a big difference????

 

Ptran did the other ppl answer your question? You failed to mention you dont live at sea level...then again I forgot to mention they use custom turbo's...hehe but I guess we were both wrong :-P
In any case, sure cant wait for SPRING! Rebuilts mods/new turbo! WOO!

[Edit] Stupid 5 posts per day...Anyways, b16a, I spoke with the owner. He told me he was going to increase the bore x stroke, replace all my interals (gaskets,pistons,rings,throttle body etc etc), and do some heavy duty block work Im going to talk to him in a day or two, I'll get the specifics...He also has the website with all the information on it (There's a drag racer out there who runs this setup...). It is no lie And scratch that, 160 at best I meant to say.


[Modified by 94BlackCivicEX, 9:07 PM 11/12/2002]

 

it was 15.9 but we are comparing a turbo d16 to a na
.4sec on 6psi isnt really making much sense