Good patrons of Honda-Tech, I would like to present to you our initial testing and comparison of the US-market 2017 Honda Civic Type R.




Once more, I won't bore you all with magazine-related details and nifty buzzwords that describe how the car "feels." I'm here to show you some freakin' dyno plots, so here you go. This example had 600 miles on it before testing. Test conditions were 87degF in the dyno room.



As you can tell, these things are suuuuuuper healthy compared to the '17 Civic Si (rated at 205hp, dyno tested at 184hp on this dyno). This example made 306whp / 305wtq. One thing to note on these runs is the dip in the torque curve; without being able to log anything with the stupid Bosch ECU in these cars, I can't tell when high cam engagement is, but it looks like a telltale VTEC dip from being either too high or too low, and knowing Honda, it wouldn't be a surprise (the same company that used to set VTEC at 6,000+rpm on the K20A2, K20Z3, and F20/F22C to sell on the novelty of "VTEC").

Now for some fun comparisons.

Here's the CTR versus a completely stock 2017 Civic Si (that may or may not be mine):


And the CTR versus the same Si with KTuner tuning:


Judging by the gains made on the L15 Turbo engine, there's likely a bunch left on the table for the CTR's larger, more efficient engine, once someone can figure out how to flash them via the OBD2 port.

The future is looking pretty bright from the Honda camp.

Cheers. (does that still work here?)

 

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Awesome information can't wait to see what these things are capable of !

 

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Needs a drop and a lip.

 

Good stuff

 

Thanks for sharing Derek. Seeing this makes me miss the forums and want a TypeR even more.

Keep it coming

 

Pretty serious. Interested to see how things progress with tuning

 

Great info, thanks for posting Derek.

 

Thanks for the post Derek, these numbers are impressive for sure. Also, seeing how much you pushed on a (mostly stock) K20A2, I would love to see how far things can go with the type r's engine with an upgraded turbo and fuel setup. Pushing the stock turbo to the limits will be interesting as well.

 

Dude where you been.




Good **** derek

 

Damn! It doesn't lose much power to the wheels from the crank

 

sweet!

 

Awesome. I know its just numbers, but i think Honda definitely undersold the power rating on these things. More and more it seems like these are likely around 340bhp from the factory.

 

Hmmmm, did Honda under-rate this engine? Specs say 306 hp and 295 lb-ft of torque.

 

Thats awesome! Makes me want to go into debt... 10 years from now ill be wishing I did haha. Thanks for sharing!

 

Probably 350hp amirite

 

Urite. Can't wait for Motor Trend to put this up against the Golf R and Focus RS.

 

Those are healthy dyno #'s..

 

It's on a dynapack which is not a traditional "WHP" number. It's not trying to spin a 2000lb dynojet roller or a loaded mustang roller. Engine is still underrated but id say in the 320-330 range.

 

Correct, although I have posted several comparisons versus other factory Honda cars in the other thread (about the 2017 Civic Si), to provide a foundation for understanding them in relation to one another.

 

Local Dynojet here had one at 288 on a hot humid day