(Urgent) Just put new starter in wont crank

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Old Sep 24, 2016 | 02:28 PM
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Hey guys (been coming here often and you guys always have the answers). I literally just changed my starter 5 min ago and the car wont crank. relay clicks once and the lights dim but not crank. I need this car working tomorrow. any suggestions?
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Old Sep 24, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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double check your battery and the ground cable from starter, also make sure the clip that snaps in on the starter is tight ( hidden by rubber boot)
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Old Sep 24, 2016 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BoRiCuA
double check your battery and the ground cable from starter, also make sure the clip that snaps in on the starter is tight ( hidden by rubber boot)
This. I would assume the ground isn't tight.
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Old Sep 24, 2016 | 06:21 PM
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Default Re: (Urgent) Just put new starter in wont crank

just installed new battery terminals today and thats good. ill check the starter ground in the morning. ill return with news
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 07:56 AM
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The ground is secure car will still not start. also all fuses are checked good.
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 08:59 AM
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Have you jumped the starter to make sure it's functional?
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 09:43 AM
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Default Re: (Urgent) Just put new starter in wont crank

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Have you jumped the starter to make sure it's functional?
Its a brand new starter
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 04:00 PM
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Ok
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Its a brand new starter
Brand new doesn't mean its functional.

A very large percentage of autoparts are defective.
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Old Sep 25, 2016 | 04:29 PM
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Default Re: (Urgent) Just put new starter in wont crank

Thank you.

OP if you don't want to test it then the next course of action might be to pull out a multimeter and start figuring out where the voltage drops off or where the open is occurring at.
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 04:38 AM
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Default Re: (Urgent) Just put new starter in wont crank

went ahead and took the valve cover ground and mounted it somewhere else and the car cranks now. thanks for the help Honda-Tech
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 09:11 AM
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Two things, the VC ground has nothing to do with starter motor, [other then in a roundabout way] 2nd, there is no ground wire going to the starter motor, the tarter is grounded through it's mounting to the motor/transaxle, the two leads going to the starter motor are the batt. cable, [thick one] and the starter lead, [thin one] both are 12V+.
I would recheck your main grounds, batt. to chassis and chassis to engine, [the chassis to engine is NOT the one to the VC]. 94
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 10:19 AM
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hate to tell you but when i take the VC ground off it wont crank. With it on it will. Problem is fixed.
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 06:57 PM
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"Hate to tell you," but you most likely have a ground problem that lies somewhere other than the VC. You should check your grounds before you end up with a more significant problem that strands you somewhere.
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 07:33 PM
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every other ground is tight as ****. they're not going anywhere
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 11:43 AM
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Default Re: (Urgent) Just put new starter in wont crank

Originally Posted by Aquila
hate to tell you but when i take the VC ground off it wont crank. With it on it will. Problem is fixed.
That just means the engine is grounding through the VC ground and that is not correct.

Your chassis to engine ground is N/G, what is the MM&Y of your car?
FYI a tight ground even if tight as **** does not mean it is a good ground, the only way to insure a ground is good is to disconnect/clean/reconnect. 94

Last edited by fcm; Sep 27, 2016 at 11:46 AM. Reason: typo
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 03:02 PM
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The ground for the starter is the one going from the passenger side frame rail to the clutch cable mounting bracket.
The valve cover should be insulated with the rubber seal and rubber grommets. No metal to metal contact should be made with the valve cover that could supply your starter.
Ground cable goes to valve cover to help with controlling electromagnetic noise that might come from the spark plugs.
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Old Sep 27, 2016 | 09:43 PM
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I want to hear this electromagnetic noise.
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Aquila
hate to tell you but when i take the VC ground off it wont crank. With it on it will. Problem is fixed.
Yeeeaaaahhhh as fcm said you really should check your system. Get a ground schematic and make sure that all grounds are routed correctly. That should not happen.

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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 03:06 PM
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I want to hear this electromagnetic noise.
Only if I can join your club
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Old Sep 28, 2016 | 05:59 PM
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Default Re: (Urgent) Just put new starter in wont crank

ive looked it all over and everything is secured nice and tight. even took grounds off and scrubbed them and reapplied. strange but ill just leave it alone.
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