Tuesday night was a big night in So.California. Mike from Lucky Racing and Jerry from Import Builders had a race locked up for this night. Both cars being all motor street cars, have extremely respected track times of sub 12sec. passes. Due to the thick fog and moisture the in the evening hours it seemed really unlikely that anything was going to take place. As the evening dragged on I, myself had to leave around 2am due to school in the morning. But a buddy of mine stayed that night and witnessed the race. From what I've been told the race was a extremely close one. Mike had a fumbled lauch since his tach light wasnt even working and Jerry was already out 3/4 of a car off of the line. It was extremely close, but as the 1/4mi. was coming to an end, Matts car slightly pulled and was ahead by a fender at the finish line. There were video cameras documenting it, and I've been told that it clearly stated the winner. Others have begged' to differ...but all in all i think it was a night thats definitely going in the record books here in so.cal.

Matt's Hatch Pic

correction: when i put mike, i meant Matt....

[Modified by ian, 9:12 PM 11/7/2002]


[Modified by ian, 10:47 PM 11/8/2002]

 

I heard the opposite. Very close race but Jerry was ahead by a bumper at the end. Also heard that Jerry wanted to do it again since it was so close, but they didn't want to...

I would definately like to see a vid if anyone has one.

 

The guys from Lucky didnt want to run it again since they got shafted the money from the first race, since it was so close. But, from the looks of it on the tapes, Matt's headlights projected toward the ground were even a little ahead. Everyone was just wondering why anyone would want to race again if they knew they won?


[Modified by ian, 9:26 PM 11/7/2002]

 

Were they racing on slicks or street tires?

Nice race.

 

if i won, i would definitely race again since i know i can beat the other guy.

 

Same here, that is what I was thinking. Since there was dispute on both sides why not do it again?

 

damn thats the type of **** that gets me pumped lol. hearing about two topnotch camps race to see whos top dog. i heard that that yellow hatch took all motor street at cmi last october. is that lucky racing's fastest all motor street car? anyone know how to get ahold of both sides?

 

I can't say anything on the subject, I was not there. heresay is heresay.

Jeff


[Modified by ImportReview, 4:17 PM 11/9/2002]

 

Jerry misshifts and it's still hella close?!?!?!?!

Jerry=

Jerry is my hero


[Modified by RK, 12:49 AM 11/8/2002]

 

They should definitely race again. From what I know, Jerry pays when he loses. His clutch got stuck last time he raced, he lost, he still paid. So I'm guessing it was probably too close to tell.

And same logic goes for me, if I knew my car was faster than the other guys for sure, I would race again. Why didn't Matt race again? Who knows.....

Jay Kim


[Modified by AllMotorMonster, 12:57 AM 11/8/2002]

 

a lucky racing member who doesnt have a user name would like me to post this, so if u have any questions, ask lucky about it. i was not there. just doing a favor. they had the following to say:

"why would we race again when they still owe us a G for the first run which they lost straight out. if they pay up then we will race again to give him a chance to earn his cash back. we are not gonna race again for free. pride is one thing but when you lose you pay up. and do it again. you cant make excuses and say its a tie. this isnt nhl hockey, this is drag racing.btw the car is untuned and literally slapped together"-Lucky Racing member (nope im not from lucky)

 

My $$$ is on Jerry..................btw. Jerry's car runs 11's not 12's


[Modified by AllMotorMadness, 4:28 PM 11/8/2002]

 

"Both cars being all motor street cars, have extremely respected track times of sub 12sec. passes. " -from the top

 

"To be a sore losser u have to lose and I (jerry) did not lose. I was man enough to admit to it was too close to call, and all the people who had camera's that filmed it all were on the other team, and all had shots at a huge angle. So it appeared that the other car was in the front but not really.
So I told them if they could show me the car was ahead of me at the finish line, he won...but all you guys showed us the film and it absolutely did not show that because of the whack angle of the camera. All the people on my side said I had won. What do you have to say about that?

Thats why simply I told them, lets DO IT AGAIN, if there was any questions who won. The next time we could determine there will be a sure winner becuase I will not mis shift this time.

My car is a total street car, I have a dashboard, a full radio system, the stock doors, paneling, all that ****. Their car has no DASH BOARD!

All they have is a tachometer in the car and thats it. No dashboard, nothing, its a full race car!

No mis shifting next time. Even with mif shift it was too close to call"

Jerry

Well, that was from jerry as a direct response.


[Modified by ImportReview, 4:18 PM 11/9/2002]

 

Ok well it seems that the person we raced is more upset if anything. This was a very anticipated race and jerry did lose, everyone there knows it. people who werent biased on either side that was standing at the end said our driver passed the quarter mile first, that clearly states a win. that fact that jerry missed a shift or not is not our problem. I would also like to clear up a misconception about our FULL BODY STREET CAR. If you really want to get down to it. jerry runs a lexan windshield just like a race car, ours is all factory glass like any normal street car. our engine program on this motor wasnt as serious as people may assume, we all helped to get the car to go compete in a street power all motor class in sacramento, We ended up winning the event 1st place. this is our toy car to have fun with it is by no means our fastest car so there is clearly no comparison...... bottom line is we won the race and we have video footage from both sides of the street. I thought this would be a much more friendly race but i was sadly mistaken. but its ok once we actually dyno the car I am confident it will run faster. I just wanted to clear things up. this is all i would like to say on this matter.

thank you.

 

good **** on sacramento. quick question, whats your fastest NA car? 1/4 ET? how bout your teams fastest car? 1/4 ET?

 

fastest all motor time any of our drivers ran at a national event was back in sept of 2000.. 11.40 @ 119.9 mph so far. with a very bad 1.78 60 ft. that car normally hits 1.55 60 ft at the time. we have a crx that ran 11.55 @ 117.4 also at a national event, with just a 1.8 lsvtec with honda pistons and mild headwork, the yellow eg hatch that runs 11.9 @ 113.4 mph untuned at NHRA finals in pomona. we also have a street legal car that runs 12.0 @ 110 all glass, all sheet metal, on pump gas. Now that car should definetly run in the 11s also. Not to mention a mild turbo street motor in a integra that fried the 26 inch slicks all the way till 3rd and still went 10.20 @ 140.41 on its first pass . a few other mid to low 12 sec daily driven civics and integras. This upcoming bakersfield we should be running 2 cars in the pro all motor field a blue crx, and black civic eg. I Hope we can just put this unfortunate turn of events behind us and lay this subject to rest. Everyone knows what really happened. Lets just keep it friendly, no need to say anything more... We will still continue to build fast and reliable engines at low prices and continue to race and do the best we can. if you woud like more info please contact us through email.

thank you, and see you at the track!


[Modified by LuckyRacing, 9:13 AM 11/9/2002]

 

this is what i call street racing

 

I was not there.


[Modified by ImportReview, 12:39 AM 11/13/2002]

 

[Modified by MnC CRX, 9:28 AM 11/9/2002]

 

man, this is getting intense.

1 said they won, the other says teh same

1 claims to have a full interior, full glass, and trimming(sheet metal) so does the other.

1 says the other has no dash, they other says this one has a lexan windshield.

wow, this is getting good.

why don't you guys upload teh pictures and we can be the judge

 

I don't know about Lucky Racing car, but Jerry's car has full glass, full doors and full dash board. Things that are missing from his car is the carpet, headliner, and backseats. And also when he ran his 11.8 pass on a track he had full glass, full door, and full dash board. If it was too close to call, why don't they just race again?

"Because he didn't pay up the first time....wa wa wa." You know what that sounds like? Excuses. Nothing but just bunch of excuses.

Don't get me wrong. I do have respect for Lucky Racing as I have respect for Jerry, Erick's, etc. Their cars are fast as hell. But like said above, IF YOU KNOW THAT YOUR CAR IS FASTER, WHY NOT JUST RACE AGAIN AND JUST TAKE JERRY'S MONEY? It should be easy as taking a candy from a kid, right?

RACE. NO MORE TALK, even though it seems like that's all Lucky Racing and the crew wants to do.

Jay Kim

P.S. Those that support Lucky Racing....doesn't the above reasoning make you wonder?


[Modified by AllMotorMonster, 6:01 AM 11/9/2002]

 

last time i checked lexan and glass were not the same. how can you be full glass and even street legal with lexan front windshield. whoever made that comment needs to actually know what there are talking about before they start talking.

secondly. import review you are wrong the loser usually wants to race again. why would the winner of the race want to pick on someone he just beat? thats not sportsman like but if you want to bully we can play that game too. You got it all backwards, it was a nice attempt but its not gonna fly. and more importantly I hear you werent even there at the race so why are you even talking and making it seem like you have first hand knowledge on what exactly went down? No offense to you or your establishment but you certainly are way out of you league here and have no business talking on a matter that you dont have all the facts on.

allmotormonster, there is no need to hate. this was a race and did not even involve you either, there is no need to try and instigate anything we know jerry and been freinds with him for awhile. Go start some trouble with someone on your own, dont try and involve us or jerry in your dispute.

thank you and have a safe weeked!

 

Getting more interesting. Race again!

 

Jerry Jerry lol Jerry Jerry Jerry my friend this is Matt why did it have to come to this. When you lose you lose.first you said it was a tie, then you changed your mind and said you won?? if you did win how come you never once asked for the money?? we knew we won thats why we needed to get payed. I think the pride is more important to you in this case, I would love some twm's too but this is just our play motor i doubt it makes that much hp anyways its all good.

p.s. I missed 3rd gear too next time we wont kill a 30 pack of beer before the race and maybe i might actually get a decent launch...


[Modified by LuckyRacing, 12:13 AM 11/10/2002]