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Old Jun 10, 2016 | 11:16 PM
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Hello everybody,

I'm rebuilding an old Dart Block I bought used on the other side of the Europe. It has been very poorly assembled by a famous dream seller on the web (bad clearances, bad balanced, bad pins choice, bad degreeing, etc...) and I gonna make a real performance build.

you want pics of my 4WD (and 4WS)? you can look on my website
Civic AWSD - Soxle

My idea is to build a civic like we had dreamed on in 90':
- with the best parts on the market in those years
- before Fast and Furious
- when the Honda scene was young.

In France, I wrote a book on the Engine Performance and I gonna use the civic to promote it on track days.



perhaps you know my red stig girls? (because I run with a red helmet)


She gonna help us with "The Horsepower Secret" (the book) to give health to this engine. Yes, I built the 4WD civic in my garden. Know, I rent a garage. more confortable, more results




Hypertune intake manifold
Twinscroll Ball Bearing Turbo
Fullrace exhaust manifold
Dart Block
Je pistons
Crower rods
AEM V2 management
Dry sump kit
Full CNC RPM-Blade (the Soxle Girdle)
Skunk2 Pro1 camshafts (the older version)
Tilton Clutch (always the same on my car since more than ten years!)
and other parts

happy to be back among you
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 07:52 AM
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My idea is to build a civic like we had dreamed on in 90':
- with the best parts on the market in those years
- before Fast and Furious
- when the Honda scene was young.
Not sure what the point of that list is, seeing how it's all irrelevant now (no offense)

You sparked my interest though, looking forward to seeing how it goes.
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 11:37 AM
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when I looked Dart publicity in magazines or the results at bonneville or with Lisa Kubo, etc... I dreamed... After, I built the 720hp B18, after the civic AWD with the H22 turbo (840hp) and now, I want to make my young timer

I want to make an aesthetic thread. I hope you will appreciate to look it
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 12:43 PM
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Well, when you throw Kubo's name into this, now I'm seriously interested.. I like the mission statement, as it makes perfect sense for what you're trying to do..

Keep it up! It's nice to see something new and interesting from a European viewpoint.
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 02:54 PM
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Who was this dream seller? and which side of Europe?
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Geis
Not sure what the point of that list is, seeing how it's all irrelevant now (no offense)

You sparked my interest though, looking forward to seeing how it goes.
Take it easy, this dude has done a lot more than you've even thought about.
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Old Jun 11, 2016 | 03:58 PM
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More pics of the stig chick less car talk LOL.

GL with the build
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 12:49 AM
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Turbo-LS: like that with the Dart?



rudebwoy: search on my weblinks. It's clearly explained. I don't want to foul this thread.
TheShodan: I'm not sure you will have the european viewpoint with me. In France, I defend my controversial systemic methodology described in the book but many people prefer to "put parts and test" before "keep your money, think, put parts (or build them if the good part doesn't exist cause the massive market) and test". Time is money...

Caoboy: I'm touched
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 02:58 PM
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Sweet lookin watch
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by soxle
Turbo-LS: like that with the Dart?



rudebwoy: search on my weblinks. It's clearly explained. I don't want to foul this thread.
TheShodan: I'm not sure you will have the european viewpoint with me. In France, I defend my controversial systemic methodology described in the book but many people prefer to "put parts and test" before "keep your money, think, put parts (or build them if the good part doesn't exist cause the massive market) and test". Time is money...

Caoboy: I'm touched
Lived in Europe. Thethought process you describe is more for those that "won't think and just find whatever first , then test to see if it can work.. If not, build it. " Similar to our Island thinking. It works until you come to a wall you can't climb over. I admit, I didn't go into France much for racing, but I love the gumption that Europe has over America, who tend to give up too easily the 1st time around if it isn't like putting LEGOS together..
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Old Jun 13, 2016 | 10:58 PM
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You have LEGO boys in Europe too ^^

Discuss will allow me to better adapt the translation of the book. sometimes, European know not obvious practical stuff that Americans don't know and sometimes the Americans do not know the little tricks that many Europeans have long known. this is what I can observe in discussions. So I'm going to write the book differently, not just translate.
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Old Jun 15, 2016 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ls joker
Sweet lookin watch
Yes, sweet looking "watch" -ahem-

Can't wait to see this thing built up. Everything you build is insane Soxle.
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Old Jun 16, 2016 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
Lived in Europe. Thethought process you describe is more for those that "won't think and just find whatever first , then test to see if it can work.. If not, build it. " Similar to our Island thinking. It works until you come to a wall you can't climb over. I admit, I didn't go into France much for racing, but I love the gumption that Europe has over America, who tend to give up too easily the 1st time around if it isn't like putting LEGOS together..
I don't know which part of Europe you lived before, but I am in Germany, and most people here cannot think outside the box automotive wise, everything is impossible if it was not written that way, most mechanics here only know how to change parts by the book, no trouble shooting skills, for example Honda igniter is blown they will replace whole distributor. I've faced so many obstacles in my quest. Now the Netherlands them boys have some skills. I have a few friends who also know what they are doing.
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 03:12 AM
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Can you talk a little about the drive train and your thoughts.. I am not familiar with the delta integrale rear diff and how it is managed, or how you´ll solved it with gear ratios so it will match the gear box and final drive in it. Center diff?? Etc..
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rudebwoy
I don't know which part of Europe you lived before, but I am in Germany, and most people here cannot think outside the box automotive wise, everything is impossible if it was not written that way, most mechanics here only know how to change parts by the book, no trouble shooting skills, for example Honda igniter is blown they will replace whole distributor. I've faced so many obstacles in my quest. Now the Netherlands them boys have some skills. I have a few friends who also know what they are doing.
We cant build and test it because we have technical inspection every 2 years for cars. And every parts that we change must have a technical passed license. Its harder to get more power legal to the streets now. So all guys are scary and wont have problems wirh the police. When u have some big ***** u cand do everything. But the most people dont have it..thats it...
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Old Jul 8, 2016 | 05:06 PM
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Gota be faster than the radio. Then you wont have to worry bout.

Cherrys n berrys,... full boost, no more cherrys n berrys
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Old Jul 19, 2016 | 12:57 AM
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nenkitsune, Thanx

The sweed, I don't use a delta HF diff now. It's only a CRV rear diff with a custom lsd (torsen)

now, I'm building a dry sump/block girdle (my famous RPM-Blade). The Dart block is warranty to 1000HP. It will be reliable to 1500hp with this part. and I will get the half of power to make a "standard reliability honda" engine.
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Old Jul 21, 2016 | 01:34 AM
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Nice girdle.. Are you planning on makeing them and sell?

Have you done or plan any modification to the rear diff to hold higher power or something. As I remember it is some kind of oil clutch in it that engage the rear wheels when the front is slipping.. I would guess tat system is pretty weak..
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Old Jul 24, 2016 | 05:26 AM
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On my H22, the rear diff (with the torsen and big shafts) was "ok" with 500 ft.lb @ 20psi. broken only two times. I thnik with this "little" Dart, it will be ok.

Yes, it's possible to make others if people are interesting.




on (under!) the engine


Now, it's good with 1500HP.
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Old Jul 27, 2016 | 12:42 AM
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The sky's the limit.



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Old Jul 27, 2016 | 07:39 AM
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Awesome high level work! Cant wait to see the finished product.
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Old Aug 7, 2016 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by soxle
On my H22, the rear diff (with the torsen and big shafts) was "ok" with 500 ft.lb @ 20psi. broken only two times. I thnik with this "little" Dart, it will be ok.
With 500ft.lb what broke? What would you think the weak link is. Did you do any racing at the drag strip with slicks and so on or was this 500ft/lb on the streets?

You didn´t have any troubles with the transfercase/gear?


Iám thinking of a simular project for my self and was thinking if it is worth to get the rt4wd wagon center diff and the cast iron rear diff and get the correct gear ratio custom made. If the transfer gears and case are strong it could be worth it if thats make it reliable and handles alot of power. A dog gearset on that and it will be a super fun.
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Old Aug 8, 2016 | 10:08 PM
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The dual pump was destroyed. over slipping, one time (oil pump?), clutches destroyed, one time.
my system is reliable. LSD inside (torsen), week-end track use and daily street use.
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Old Aug 10, 2016 | 01:43 AM
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My last video
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Old Sep 26, 2016 | 10:09 AM
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