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Old May 30, 2016 | 11:11 AM
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Default Element Oil Pan Removal Special Tools???

Hey everyone,

I just did a complete overhaul of the top end of my engine after a burnt valve.

I decided it was time to reseal the oil pan after 300k miles because its been leaking for a long time.

The manual says I need two special tools.
  • Front subframe adapter VSB02C000016
  • Engine support hanger, A and Reds AAR-T-12566
Before I go out and buy or rent "Another" special tool. I was curious is anyone has done this using just a simple engine hoist and jack.


I only ask because I have purchased special tools only to find someone did it with tools I already had.

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Old May 30, 2016 | 11:29 AM
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Also, if there is a video or thread online that shows this a link would be appreciatted. I have done my fair share of searches but so far nothing.

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Old May 30, 2016 | 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Element Oil Pan Removal Special Tools???

So here are the tools I have and what I hope will work...

I have this Snap-On Motorcycle Jack I think I can use to lower the subframe.

I have "BIG RED" 2-ton engine hoist that I believe can keep the engine up.

I also have another motorcycle lift and of course plenty of jacks.

Not my first rodeo but this IS my first Honda. When manufactuars make "Special" tools I need to ask because the dealers obviosly have all of this.

What am I missing? Better to ask then suffer for it later.

Thanks guys in advance.
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Old Jun 1, 2016 | 10:31 PM
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If memory serves me there "might" be enough clearance to sneek a 1/4 extention with the appropriate adapters around the sub frame to access the oil pan bolts. It's worth a shot. Dropping the subframe is a big job.

You can do all this with a floor jack. Raise the car up as high as you can on jack stands. You'll need the clearance when dropping the subframe.

My method requires you to be able to benchpress the subframe. I'd guess about 80 lbs. Using an impact driver remove all but 2 bolts diagonally leaving one front and one rear on opposite sides. Back both bolts off but dont remove them. Get into position under the subframe so your legs are supporting the front, and your arms the rear. At this point see how heavy the subframe is. If you have doubts about lifting it don't try my method. Now would also be a good time to check that you with the subframe on top of you have enough clearance to slide out from the front.

If you can handle the weight then remove the rear bolt. Support the frame with some blocks of wood or your free hand (I opted for my free hand). Now remove the front bolt and catch the sub frame with your legs. Congrats you're now stuck under your subframe. Its heavy. With it on top of you slide out from under the car.

I may catch **** for suggesting this. But this is how I roll. I highly recommend a helper if you have one.

The simple answer is I didn't need the engine hanger support. The upper engine mounts are not coming off so theres little risk of the motor dropping (at least on a manual transmission CRV).

Good luck with the lower ball joints. They will be your biggest enemy during this task. I highly suggest this ball joint remover

http://m.harborfreight.com/3-4-quarter-inch-forged-ball-joint-separator-99849.html?utm_referrer=direct%2Fnot%20provided
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