Just wondering when the new ultra lca will be coming out for the EK (I see skunk2 replied to a persons comment on their facebook page that they would be out ''VERY soon'' (October 2015)

Maybe by the end of the year. I'am looking to buy new lcas but don't want to buy the current ones and then the new ones comes out VERY shortly after lol.

Discuss...........

 

There are better lower control arms out there for around the same money. Look at function 7 or ASR.

 

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As bigtimegambler mentioned their are plenty of reputable brands that will actually last. I would also look at Voodoo13 and Hardrace as well. Skip the Blox, BWR, Junk2 stuff. The bushings in cheaper arms are known to go out, can't imagine them using a quality bearing either.

 

Hardrace is reputable too. I will have to check out these voodoo13 lca, as I have never heard of them. You're right about the bushings.
There is no reason to go with skunk2 unless you want to be hella jdm bro.

 

voodoo13 is 6061 vs f7 7075 and the bushings are supposed to both be made by energy suspension.

 

Hardrace is also pretty cheap. It appears that whoever makes the Hardrace also makes the Truhart ones as well.

 

Good suggestions here!

I'am I correct in saying that skunk2, ASR, F7... all use the same energy poly bushings? If so how does one perform better than the other (disregarding the alum material grade)

F7 seem to have a good rep from people. How is that skunk2 gets such a bad rep, I assume from peoples bad experiences as opposed to people just giving off without any actual rear world experience with these products.

 

they do not all use the same ES poly bushings. its not accurate to say they are the same. why did you think that?

F7 uses ES to make their poly bushings simply because they can do it cheaper, to their specs. their bushing design has always been different, just look at them.

its pretty easy to find examples of busted poly bushings, particularly from Skunk2.

F7 uses a stronger 7000 series aluminum alloy. engineered and machined in USA.

the quality of typical chinese machined aluminum is suspect. its not even 6061.

 

Tyson is correct. Chinese and Taiwan parts are of unknown quality. How did you figure Skunk2 had bushings made by ES? Skunk2, Blox, BWR, Megan racing busings are all known to fail quick.

 

ok ok.....I have been educated here on LCAs lol.

I see what you mean by the skunk2 & F7 bushings being slightly different shape.
Just wondering about the new ultra LCAs using a harder/durable/larger material (skunk2 video on youtube). Its's hard too know unless you talk to someone who has these new ones on their EG, but this NEW design MIGHT perform better than their current ones.

So it seems F7 seem to be best to go for now? Anybody any experience/use with ASR LCA's

 

actually the best LCA are stock. you buy them from the dealer. go figure.

 

I wouldn't trust 6061 on my rifle, so why should you trust it for something carrying a load like a car? 7075 is so much more durable, hell even the sprocket hub on my ATV is 7075, upgraded from the 6061 units that you end up replacing every other year.

 

http://www.facebook.com/rcsgarageinc/photos/a.565880643457574.1073741826.142977502414559/689368504442120/?type=3&theater[/url]

 

6061 – Mechanical Properties
Ultimate Tensile Strength 45000 psi
Tensile Yield Strength 40000 psi
Fatigue Strength 14000 psi
Shear Strength 30000 psi
Hardness, Rockwell 40
Machinability 50%

7075 – Mechanical Properties
Ultimate Tensile Strength 83000 psi
Tensile Yield Strength 73000 psi
Fatigue Strength 23000 psi
Shear Strength 48000 psi
Hardness, Rockwell 53.5
Machinability 70%

Need I say more? Saying 6061 will bend and 7075 will snap is ridiculous. Look at the forces required to shear for both.

 

thats ridiculously overstated.

6061 is commonly used aluminum because its cheap, has decent mechanical strength, super easy to machine, and cheap.

ive seen function 7's after a high speed slam into a wall. the results were not "snapped", and quite frankly, hardly "bent" at all.

"comes down to price really". pretty much.

"aerospace quality aluminum" this guy definitely knows how to sell to the ignorant.

 

skunk2 ultra lca | eBay

 

So finally F7 or ASR would be good to go for yea?

 

 

but bro they don't get any show cred!

My brother was going to buy some aftermarket LCA's for his DB1...but the only reason was because the factory LCA's didn't allow an endlink to be bolted in. Even then I think we were just going to buy some factory DC2 that had the holes for an endlink.

 

The Ultra Skunk2 LCA's are already out... there are a few EG pairs rolling around in my area now. Gold, Silver and Black. EK fitment isn't listed on Skunk2's website yet.

 

Yea they are out for EG but this thread is talking about the EK.

 

wait, his DB1 doesn't have holes for the swaybar end links? that means he has civic LCA's in there. ALL 2nd gen integras came with rear swaybars so they all would have the holes for the end links.

 

Nope. His car is was all original when we bought it from an old white couple. I don't think they'd mod their LCA's like that.

Front sway bar, but no rear sway bar.

It's a 4 door, if that makes a difference. I may have the chassis identity code wrong.

 

I have always heard good things about skunk2 and f7. I have owned two sets of skunk2 control arms and they have worked well for me.

 

Junk 2, made in taiwan.