Any ideas what kind of NOS kit would pretty much bolt on to a stock JDM H22A motor??

I've got a '93 car JDM VTEC with 80k miles on it, do you think its ok running NOS or what engine work would I need to do to keep it safe? Not after big gains etc just a little speed boost would be nice. Not blowing the engine is my main concern... Are wet or dry kits safer do you think?

Please forgive my ignorance I'm a european newbie

Thanks

 

wait for the plate kit and squeeze about a 75 shot..

laughin would probably be the one to listen to about nitrous

 

I ran an 80 shot on my 5th gen for about 3 yrs till i decided to go boost... to be on the safe side i would beef up your ignition system, your intake, and exaust before spraying... Easiest kit would be a dry system, single fogger tapped right into the intake before the throttle body... i can help answer any question if needed.. In you case with 80K miles i wouldnt go nuts.. i would look into the ignition, exaust, and intake, and then run either a 60 shot single fogger dry system.. thats enough to let you know its there, but will keep the motor safe.. an even more secure system (but more expensive) would be a wet kit.. wet kits mix nitrous with the fuel and go that extra mile to insure you dont blow your motor.. let me know if you have any more questions...


[Modified by LordVtec, 1:16 PM 11/5/2002]

 

i had 100 shot with a direct port nitrous but i have all ignition....fuel and timming covered

 

Honestly i dont suggest running NOS on a stock motor.. especially one with 80k miles on it... but if you are going to do it, i would suggest preparing your motor for nitrous before you slap on a kit... look into getting your ignition done, exaust, and intake... then you can safely spray a 60 shot.. (do not go higher then 70 with out beefing up your feul system).. Now, i am not saying it cant be done, i ran an 80 shot on my prelude for 3 years on my stock feul system.. I had exaust, intake, crane hi-6 ignition w/ the crane fireball coil, ran NGK 7's and never had a problem... but my car was brand spanking new.. i would take greater care with a car that has already seen some miles, especially if you plan on keeping it running and reliable.. just my $0.02

 

Personally I like the NX single fogger wet kits for anything under a 75 shot. You can run a 50 shot with just NGK-BKR7E plugs and a purge kit. The purge kit is used to get the old nitrous out of the lines before a run and to relieve pressure in the lines after your run. Some people can run a 60 shot with just plugs and some can't, every motor is different. You can go up to a 75-85 shot on the stock fuel system. I have an MSD 6A, blaster 3 coil, and Zex plugs right now for a 75 shot. It is overkill, but I plan on going up to a 100 shot soon so it as worth it.
The most important thing is to do a compression test before you put the kit on. If your compression sucks don't spray on it. Also check your plugs after every run until you get the kit running properly and after that check them weekly or bi-weekly. For any other questions I'm laughinvein on AIM, PM me here, or part with $6.53 and join PO.com. I guarantee that we have the best Honda nitrous forum that you'll run across.

 

The N2O forum on PO.com is they have helped me alot.

oh and i am runnig a 50 shot on a stock H22a1 with 80k on it. all i have is the NOS 5123 kit, Zex purge, NOS remote opener, and Zex plugs (plugs are overkill but i didnt want to take any chances)

only thing i have damaged so far is my clutch, it is slippin like a *****


[Modified by Monas, 4:53 PM 11/5/2002]

 

LOL, thats what happens when you start making real power.

 

I wouldnt wait for the plate kit, its not looking like it will out any time soon or maybe never. I'm running a single fogger "wet system" on my stock motor with no problems, but I don't spray all too often

 

A 50 shot wet kit sounds nice, so from what I can gather to be safe I'd need a CAI, higher flowing exhaust system (and manifold?), new plugs (and HT leads?) and a new ignition system? Oh and do a compression test to make sure everything is OK?

Roughly how much does a new ignition system cost and how much labour is there in fitting it?

Thanks a lot for the advice everyone

 

You can run the 50 shot with a dry setup with no problem. If you want to get bigger jets then you should look into a wet setup. Check out the nitrous forum on preludeonline.com, last time I checked it out they have a sticky post that should answer all of your questions. You won't need a new manifold ( i assume youre talking about the intake manifold), but a high flow exhaust, ignition like MSD and an intake are all helpful options for a 50 shot. I wouldn't say they are musts, but they will enhance the nitrous setup.

 

You can run bigger jets with a dry system.. i ran an 80 shot NOS single fogger dry system on my prelude.. just a matter of having the proper jetting... when i started spraying i ran a .36 in the nitrous line and a .42 in the fuel T... i believe that was the equivalent of a 60 shot.. (correct me if i am wrong..) for a 50 shot dry system i would reccomend a .34 in the nitrous line, and a .42 in the fuel T... Dry system is still an option for you to consider....

 

I think you have your terms mixed up. A dry system means nitrous only with no additional fuel. A wet system is when you tap the fuel lines and add additional fuel when you spray the nitrous. I was saying that he can do a dry 50 shot with no problem.

 

ZEX, 75 shot, supposed to be safer... i even used an MSD timing retard when i sprayed...




[Modified by Boosted97Lude, 4:05 PM 11/6/2002]

 

actually no i dont have my terms mixed up... NOS dry kits come with two jets.. one jet controls the nitrous flow into the intake, while the other jet is placed in the fuel T.. the fuel T is attached to a vacuum line.. there isnt any fuel flowing through the fuel T.. just air. the jet regulates the amount of vacuum in the line.. thats all.. i assure you that i didnt get my terms mixed up... every NOS dry kit has two jets one for the actual nitrous and the other for the feul vacuum line..


[Modified by LordVtec, 4:17 PM 11/6/2002]

 

actually Rob, i don't think EVERY kit comes with that, as a matter of fact, the fuel regualtor is an option on most kits.... i promise you this, most of the imports running nitrous around here are my friends, and we always get fills at the same place, and they all had to buy the regulator seperate.

 

"I think you have your terms mixed up. A dry system means nitrous only with no additional fuel. A wet system is when you tap the fuel lines and add additional fuel when you spray the nitrous.:

First let me clarify that a dry kit doesnt mean no additional fuel is added, what it actually means is that the fuel required to make additional power with nitrous will be introduced through the fuel injectors. The pressure is increased to the injectors by applying nitrous pressure from the solenoid assembly when the kit is activated.. (this is the blue canister looking solenoid that comes with the kit and yes this comes with every NOS dry kit).. anyhow, this i know that for sure.. every kit i have ever owned (and i have gone through 3 different kits on three different cars) and have helped install many others on my friends cars.. the kit comes with it... anyhow, trust me sam, i may be a noob to boost, but NOS used to be my life.. lol.. Its called a dry system because it will keeps the upper intake dry of fuel.. on the opposite side of the coin you have the wet kit.. called a wet kit because it introduces fuel and nitrous at the same time and place, and will get the upper intake wet with fuel.... any more questions??


[Modified by LordVtec, 4:57 PM 11/6/2002]


[Modified by LordVtec, 4:59 PM 11/6/2002]

 

damn it, i thought that ****** blue thing was an option.........

but yes, i know the difference between wet and dry, i did have nitrous at one time, and plan to continue to use it in the future

 

All that you need for a 50 shot is colder plugs, a purge kit, and the compression test before hand. That's it. No ignition, no intake, no exhaust, no nothing. Just the plugs and the purge.

 

Actually sam i was just clarifying the difference between the two kits for Auto-gs-king as well as for anyone else that might be confused as to why they are called "dry" and "wet" kits.... i just thought i would reply to both of ya in one post.. lol I know you know your shiat... only thing that should have been directed towards you was that the little blue thingy comes with every dry kit..

 

how insightful.... let me guess... if it's not "all motor" then ist cheating, right?

 

Here is the mod list from your profile:
current mods-

-Intake- Stock airbox w/ k&n airfilter, no intake resonator.
-Exhaust- Custom fab 2.5in stainless (non resonated) cat back, to a stainless E.S. oval muffler (2.5in diameter).
-Shortshifter
-OEM 00' civic si leather shift ****

-Future plans-

-Gunmetal 16in Rota slipstream wheels
-Falken aszenis
-Hondata ECU
-ACT clutch (xtreme pressure plate with hybrid street disc)
-Accord type R intake manifold
-Mugen exhaust manifold
-H&R springs (1.5in drop)
-Tokico "premium" shocks
-JDM prelude fog lights
-OEM paint matched sideskirts/front and back lips
-Carbonworx carbon fiber hood
-Mugen fron & rear strut bars, mugen sway bars, and mugen lower tie bar
-EBC green stuff brake pads
-Powerslot brake rotors
-JUN lightweight flywheel
-Mugen air spoiler kit (w/o led)

Until you get some real power behind you shut the **** up. You're just a JDM ***** that thinks a set of Shitstreams and bolt-ons will give him a phat ride y0! Maybe if you ***** yourself enough JDM Wong will make you his bitch and the katman will let you tie his shoes. Luckily for me I will never have to deal with your close-minded, "I need Hondata to tune my 15 second car, b/c a VAFC isn't technologically advanced enough to handle my awesome VTEC horsepower," never getting to a high enough speed to make that over priced Mugen kit actually help your car's aerodunamics, bitch *** because you will still be trying to hit VTEC at the 1/8 mile while I'm picking up my timeslip and getting blown by the girl in the time booth. And just to make Drew happy, "**** you!"
-Evil Laughin

 

yeah, for real..... why the hell soes he need such a high performance clutch if he has no power.... what's the point?

 

Yup, and i really value your opinion on power add on's seeing as though you seem to be an expert on power.. just look at that list of mods.. wow... lol.. by the looks of your mods in your profile i can see you speak from years of experience of getting beat by cars that spray.. lol.. we all mock that of which we cant beat.. maybe instead of wasting your money on trying to make your car look fast, maybe you should spend some money under the hood where it counts.. as they say it is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.. lol.. good job there 743lude.

 

Holy ****!! LMAO!!! dude that was hilarious..