Hey everyone, I have a 2002 civic ex and I want to turbo it. I don't really have hp goals so I don't care to do a motor swap, I'm just wondering what turbo should I run on the d17 and what mods would I have to do for the turbo? I know I have to get kpro. Thanks in advance!

 

Is this car auto or manual? I would do a thorough search at other D17 builds and see if this is really something you want to put money into. There aren't a lot of aftermarket supporters of your engine and the cost vs return you will get is very outrageous.

 

It's a manual. I don't want to build it really just boost it and have a fun daily

Would I Be Able to run a turbo practically stock?

 

We've got a few Turbo-related threads listed in the FAQ's... like this one: https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-2...05whp-1772982/

 

You want a small turbo. I know nothing at all about specific builds with your motor, but that link look wayy off base. So I thought mayybe this general info helps...

A TD05H-14b is a small turbo. Oil and water cooled, reliable. Found on 90ish DSM, like Eagle Talons. Those work on 1.6L and 1.8L well.

If a small turbo, should be safe and fun with 5psi. I'd do a new headgasket and arp headstuds as a refresher.

Go-autoworks has nice, cheap stuff. Maybe for your year. Probably.

Don't cheap on wastegate. Tial bov and wastegate probably preferred.

Larger injectors, over 440cc should do.

Stock, I'd bet yes. I don't know of a factory motor you can't add a few psi to.

 

That build is based on almost an identical car to which the OP has. So, it's not off-base at all.


They don't, but that's because the D17 is not a common platform for people to modify.


You can run about 8-10psi on a stock block without any issues. The intake manifolds are known to balloon as you go higher.

Not to be rude, but if you don't really know the chassis... why make assumptions? We've got documented information in the FAQ's thread, as I stated earlier, that cover this topic rather thoroughly to help those in need.

 

Thank you for the feedback.
That's all I'd have to do for the turbo? I was hoping to be at 7psi or so. Is a gt28 or 25 small enough or too large?


The link was off base lol but really good info, I don't want to go that far into a d17

 

Stock D17 can take ~250hp reliably on stock internals. An internally gated 16G or similar turbo with a plain log manifold is perfect for that you want to do. The stock intake manifold will not "balloon" unless your talking about 25-30+ psi it's not an issue. Plenty of cars run ABS manifolds with boost. Is it the most efficient? Of course not, but it will not break under normal boosting conditions. Also, Kpro and their cam gear are a MUST for safely boosting these engines. Do not try to cheap out with a piggyback fuel controller or the like. This isn't 2004, there are better (read safer) ways to do things now. For your setup, look to spend about 2500-3grand to do it right. Ask yourself if that's really what you want to spend that $$ on to have a low 14 sec car. If you would really be happy with that, start ordering some parts.

 

That build involves 'every possible mod', 'custom pistons made just for me', sleeves, car has every mod under the sun. NOT a daily OEM.

Essentially thats a full rebuild dude, not boost on a factory setup.

Thats where I say way off base

 

Don't be concerned about PSI as much as horsepower. Different size turbos make different amounts of power at the same PSI, because of CFM.

B20VtecVillain has good points. Expect to spend a few grand. And don't cheap out.

 

I have only actually ever worked on one turbo D17. It had a cheap cast iron manifold, TD05 16G turbo, Kpro tuned on an RSX ecu with all the basic bolt-ons and supporting mods it made like 230whp and like 180wtq. Would it make for a fun daily? ProbAbly yes, but there are a ton of other setups I would rather spend the money on personally, but it's all opinion based. If you have the cash and it's something you really want to do, go for it. Just make sure your expectations are in line with your setup and realize you will not see anywhere near the power gains of a B series with regard to money spent. Realistically you probably won't even quite see the type of power other D series are making with similar investments, but if you truly want your car to have a turbo and that engine it can most certainly be done.

 

What were the basic bolt ons and supporting mods? 230 whp would be more then expected so that would be awesome. How much psi? I know I wouldn't get the gains a b would which is why I don't want to dump too much into this car. Thanks for the information!

 

In my opinion the cost of even a turbo kit and Kpro alone is too much to dump Into a D17, but if it's really gonna make you happy go for it. The build I was speaking of was also an 02. Stock shortblock, Blouch TD05 16g, Turbo XS bov, Godspeed FMIC, 2.5" charge pipes, Walbro 255, SRT4 stage 1 injectors, 3" custom down pipe Into 2.5" catless N1 style exhaust, Mishinoto half rad w/fan, AEM meth injection kit, tuned on Kpro with Hondata cam gear and RSX ecu. Made like 230/180 hp/tq at like 16psi.

 

Give us a dollar amount and an end goal first.