First time buying coilovers & Im no sure which ones to get. I was thinking TruHart but they seem cheap.... So now Im thinking Skunk2 Pro S ll or F&F.... Any help advice suggestions or anything???? I want my car to ride smooth & comfortable but I also what good spring rate so it wont scrape or nothing.
Thank You

 

You should do research and provide more info. Namely...how low do you want to go? Be honest.

The Skunk2 is the only one you listed that will ride well.

All of them are cheap and fairly junky. If someone put a gun to my head and asked me to pick, I'd choose death because I am assured that I am indestructible. My second choice would be the Skunk2.

Was I helpful?

Obviously.

 

Lol funny haha & If I say how low I wanna go, I will be lying.... Im not sure 100% how low I wanna go but I do wanna go pretty low... Im gonna be running 15x8 +15 tires 195 45... I will have a camber kit... & I wanna be really low.... No gap between tires & fender... Yes Im rolling fenders.... Maybe if needed for more low I will run 175 50 tires.... What Coilover do you suggest???

 

hope you aren't looking for something that's going to last since being super low and rolled and tucked anything you get isn't going to last long with the abuse they may take. If you want pretty good handling with some adjustability, a lifetime warranty, and interchangeable spring rates you could go with a Koni Sport Yellows w/GC sleeves kit. You want a good place to start then look in the sticky's for the suspension and brakes tech section or even try this thread https://honda-tech.com/suspension-br...ility-2967499/

 

Personal preference question. Ground control

Nothing technical.

 

You cannot use Koni yellows to slam a car. You really shouldn't be going more than 2" down with Koni Yellows. 2.5 if you have extended hats and stiff enough springs.

Koni/GC isn't the answer for EVERY suspension question.

OP absolutely needs a full body coilover. I'm guessing he's not gonna cough up $1500+++++ to buy anything real nice. Even if he did, it would be a waste.

Yonaka seems to be all the rage with the cheap/low/semi-comfort crowd. Then again...Racelands were all the rage until they all broke and became the most hated suspension on the net. People who bought them were gullible.

OP...out of your list, the Skunk2 hands down. Buddy Club N+ would be a better choice for the price point.

Also...do a little research

 

I believe this has an opportunity to become something technical.

GC's are just springs and collars. Sure, you can get the car low with them. But...what shocks can handle more than a 2.5" drop without being extremely close to the bump stop? Not Koni yellows.

What spring rates would one need to spec out for their GC's to run at a certain height (generally speaking, how much rate is acceptable for a available travel?). Suspension choice is pretty involved and technical.

People are just unaware.

I was planning on doing some sort of subjective and objective suspension thread based on setups I've used on different cars. But it's winter now....and I've eaten enough fresh salmon to fall asleep in my den for months. Awakening only at the spring melt to omnivorously roam the forests in search for massive amounts of sustainance and perhaps a mate. Such has been the instinctual way of my species for ages.

Or...wait...no...thats bears....

 

We will bear with you...

 

Honestly everyone has there own opinion of ride, but I can guarentee you that F&F are the way to go in my eyes. I have the Function and Form Type 1 on my EG sedan and Function and Form Type 2 on my hatchback and it to me is the closet to a factory ride I've ever gotten!

 

OP doesn't explain why he wants coilovers so really I'm not even sure what it is he is trying to do with coilovers. But yes GC wasn't meant for the VIP stance.

 

I'm holding my face in my palm and rubbing my forehead in befuddlement. Factory ride?

Ride quality is subjective. But...what factory car rides that badly? Did Yugos ride that badly? Who built this car that you speak of?

Or do you mean "as close to" as in the time in 7th grade....when I threw a 5 yard pass and I made out with some average looking chick .....and that was as close to being Tom Brady that I've ever been?

7th grade was ******* depressing.

 

lol. In all seriousness... I do respect that you have an opinion.

I think that you probably set the F&F 2's on the softest possible setting. Setting them soft makes them feel like the Skunk2 full adjustable setup. The Skunk2 is more compliant and soaks up bumps better...but they both have the same "dead" feeling when you soften them up enough.

Honestly, for a cheap setup, F&F's still hold the crown. They've been around long enough that they've created a following. I would never buy them in a million years. But...they obviously work for a vast amount of people that don't like to spend money, but don't mind some punishment in return.

Heel toe developed a "HT SPEC" kit based on F&F's. They had to re-valve them and use Eibach custom rated springs. They sold that setup for some insanely high price....like $1300 or something....and they openly said that "it rides ok". But lots of fools that wanted to go extremely low...be cheap...and buy a product that they knew ended up buying it. But for $1300, you I doubt you'd find another coilover with as many "features".

Going LOW is what sells F&F's. Plus, for under $800, you get all those 32 million position damper ***** that most people don't understand (nor do they actually work most of the time), you get to go LOW LOW LOW, and you still have money left over for some XXR's or Rotas to finish up your hella flush starter kit.

I bought 2 cars with F&F's already on them. One was a 98 coupe with Type 2's (sold them for $450 right away), and the other car had Type 1's. I think my neighbor thought the car was going to crack in half every time I came off my driveway with Type 1's.

There is no way you're ever going to convince me that the ride provided by Type 1's is acceptable. I don't think the tires were able to keep themselves on the ground over 90% of the bumps I hit. It was like skipping across the road.

Keeping it informative as I can. I'm not just hating on them because they're cheap. I'm just being honest in saying that they're awful.

 

F/F T1s are absolute trash. Too soft for the track, too harsh for DD. Also, holy fuckshit, why has no one pointed OP to the FAQ sticky yet?

https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...tions-1998336/

Had you bothered checking that, you would have found this thread, which quite literally answers your question to a tee.

 

He's gone forever. Never to make sticky again.

While that thread does have some very good info....there's no way someone at OP's level is going to understand it.

He wants someone to tell him what to buy...hopefully based on opinion.

Some of the stuff in that thread isn't quite right either.

 

Thanks for all your opinion guys.... I dont do track & I have 3 cars so is not really a daily driver but I guess Im going with Skunk2 Pro S ll or Buddy++ & I just created my account today.... I barely know how to answer my own thread lmao.... But Thank U guys & Not trying spend too much on this car since I spend alot on my CBR & my accord but I do wanna make it a clean EJ8.... Slammed, New Super Gloss Jet Black, new rims & tires, etc not too much & ballin in a budget

 

Wow.........way to go on putting yourself down. Having 3 cars doesn't help in this situation. But as stated, suspension....................**** it....its your ride and you do what you want. Not everyone feels the sameway about junk2 products but if you wanna go with them than go for it. I feel that once you get your answer you're gonna roll out anyways and not bother this forum until you have another opinionate question.

 

Lol somebody is in their feelings^^^^ lmao what I meant by having 3 cars is that this one particular car is not a daily driver so I can have it slammed & I dont have to put so much money into it since it doesnt move everyday & I decided Skunk2 cause the spring rate is good & price.... Even tho F&F Type 2 has good spring rate also but Im not buying today so I will def keep doing more research.... Thanks for the help guys...

 

Thank U.... Honestly U helped alot.... So thanks alot.... I will do a lil more research & I will be ready Thank U

 

No problem man. The Skunk2's really aren't that bad. I'd get the Buddy Club N+ if the pricing is about the same, though.

 

Does the spring rate really matter?? Cause if my research is correct Skunk2 has more spring rate then Buddy ClubN+.... Please correct me if Im wrong....
Options in my head R..., F&F Type 2's, Skunk2 Pro S ll, Yoanaka, Buddy Club N+,(I put them in order from highest spring rate first to lowest) your thoughts on this??? & Again Thank U

 

There's more involved than just spring rates. You should read up.

 

Feelings? You didn't specify what you wanted these coilovers for you in your OP and now you wanna modify my post by saying "my feelings"? Wow, for the record I don't care much for anybody elses ride but my own. The suspension on my ride is perfect.

Edit: Also if you knew what "good spring rates" than you wouldn't even be asking for opinions on coilovers.

 

Spring rate is a rating of how stiff the spring is. It's not a rating like...higher is better or something.

Example: 500lb/in = takes 500lbs to compress the spring 1".

So...yes, it matters. But only if you know what you're looking for.

 

Oh ok so is only 1" is not like is gonna make my car it the ground.... Umm.... Ok... But this is harder then I thought lol.... Hard to decide.... Cause even tires... I wanna stretch but I also want comfort... So is like I got 175,195, or 225 smh.... So confuse guys lol....

 

for the record i tried to point him to the sticky's... and i only mention Koni/GC as an alternative to "StanceNation" not a resolution to it. As mentioned a few times, at this point it becomes a "to each his own" situation where anyone could give an opinion but in the end it comes down to OP and what he/she chooses to go with and research on.