93 accord 5 speed info for the best budget build, just a mild F22A6 build??? info?
They r both in great condition, and the metal mounting brackets are there as thhe as the wiring for the bulbs.
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What is your budget?
If you are looking for 200hp I would suggest looking into an H22 swap. it would be much cheaper and easier then building an F22A6 to 200hp naturally aspirated. Also if you want 200hp you will need a tunable ECU, a stock JDM ECU will not get you there.
What ECU do you have, are you currently using it?
If you are looking for 200hp I would suggest looking into an H22 swap. it would be much cheaper and easier then building an F22A6 to 200hp naturally aspirated. Also if you want 200hp you will need a tunable ECU, a stock JDM ECU will not get you there.
What ECU do you have, are you currently using it?
Are you really looking for more power, or just quicker acceleration?
Stock Accord trans have tall gears and are best for cruising/economy. Transmission from a Prelude will have lower gear ratios for quicker off the line acceleration.
Stock Accord trans have tall gears and are best for cruising/economy. Transmission from a Prelude will have lower gear ratios for quicker off the line acceleration.
I wish i could do a turbo and a lot more. Just rebuilding it .020 over and not looking for speed just a good running new motor with a little more hp than I have now. As you can see it's just a daily driver. I'm getting another F22A6 in a parts cr. mine smokes and uses oil... So I was gonna rebuild the other motor so I can continue to drive the car as long as possible. Trying to do it with the lowest budget possible, but still build a quality motor, that will last and if it happens to have more power that's awesome, but not trying to race it or anything so that's not a big issue. I know boring it out just that much will add some vs factory, just didn't know if there was anything that someone knew about that motor I could do during the rebuild, certain part from a different motor, whatever that would make it run better. other than get a v tech... wish i could do that but not atm. i may have access to a vtech from a 98 but idk yet on that and it's doubtful. thanks guys
I wish i could do a turbo and a lot more. Just rebuilding it .020 over and not looking for speed just a good running new motor with a little more hp than I have now. As you can see it's just a daily driver. I'm getting another F22A6 in a parts cr. mine smokes and uses oil... So I was gonna rebuild the other motor so I can continue to drive the car as long as possible. Trying to do it with the lowest budget possible, but still build a quality motor, that will last and if it happens to have more power that's awesome, but not trying to race it or anything so that's not a big issue. I know boring it out just that much will add some vs factory, just didn't know if there was anything that someone knew about that motor I could do during the rebuild, certain part from a different motor, whatever that would make it run better. other than get a v tech... wish i could do that but not atm. i may have access to a vtech from a 98 but idk yet on that and it's doubtful. thanks guys
You have a CB, which is a bit lighter than the CD platform. I would try and look for the F23 from a first-gen Acura CL or a 6th gen Accord, and then pair that with a USDM Prelude transmission. It will cost you much less than a H22A swap, you will still get the shorter gears and a bit more power.
Rebuilding and overboring the engine won't see you much more than 140hp but it will give you a fresh engine to beat on this season autocrossing. My only real advice is don't do several mods shoddily, do a few mods well.
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You can't make accords 'fast' unless you H22A that mother or turbo or both!
Not worth the money investing in that motor to try to make it go fast. But if you're set on keeping that motor, the old I/H/E and a 50 shot of NOS upgrade will do. That bout it, SON!
Not worth the money investing in that motor to try to make it go fast. But if you're set on keeping that motor, the old I/H/E and a 50 shot of NOS upgrade will do. That bout it, SON!
If you're on a budget then I would look into doing it in stages. A H22A swap will cost you at least 2K for the engine, letting it breathe, and tuning it, to say nothing of still having the Accord gearbox.
You have a CB, which is a bit lighter than the CD platform. I would try and look for the F23 from a first-gen Acura CL or a 6th gen Accord, and then pair that with a USDM Prelude transmission. It will cost you much less than a H22A swap, you will still get the shorter gears and a bit more power.
Rebuilding and overboring the engine won't see you much more than 140hp but it will give you a fresh engine to beat on this season autocrossing. My only real advice is don't do several mods shoddily, do a few mods well.
You have a CB, which is a bit lighter than the CD platform. I would try and look for the F23 from a first-gen Acura CL or a 6th gen Accord, and then pair that with a USDM Prelude transmission. It will cost you much less than a H22A swap, you will still get the shorter gears and a bit more power.
Rebuilding and overboring the engine won't see you much more than 140hp but it will give you a fresh engine to beat on this season autocrossing. My only real advice is don't do several mods shoddily, do a few mods well.
Anyways i know a guy at a local junkyard that text me a few weeks back with an 2.3 i-vtec from like an 06 accord, auto tho. but those have the third mode for fuel economy, which is really what i need, but still more power, but idk what it would take to swap that. I'm going to look at what they got again, thinking H series now... who knows lol
when i posted this originally I was just dreamin'... wishful thinking on the 200 hp bs, lol, but I'd be happy with my motor rebuilt more than likely, maybe bored out a lil and a few other small mods, but please try to remember I can't afford to spend what I'd like to on it at all... like as cheap as possible without cutting any corners, wanna do whatever i end up doing the right way with decent stuff....got plenty of time bout all...
If you're on a budget then I would look into doing it in stages. A H22A swap will cost you at least 2K for the engine, letting it breathe, and tuning it, to say nothing of still having the Accord gearbox.
You have a CB, which is a bit lighter than the CD platform. I would try and look for the F23 from a first-gen Acura CL or a 6th gen Accord, and then pair that with a USDM Prelude transmission. It will cost you much less than a H22A swap, you will still get the shorter gears and a bit more power.
Rebuilding and overboring the engine won't see you much more than 140hp but it will give you a fresh engine to beat on this season autocrossing. My only real advice is don't do several mods shoddily, do a few mods well.
You have a CB, which is a bit lighter than the CD platform. I would try and look for the F23 from a first-gen Acura CL or a 6th gen Accord, and then pair that with a USDM Prelude transmission. It will cost you much less than a H22A swap, you will still get the shorter gears and a bit more power.
Rebuilding and overboring the engine won't see you much more than 140hp but it will give you a fresh engine to beat on this season autocrossing. My only real advice is don't do several mods shoddily, do a few mods well.
For the price, it's hard to beat the F23A1 swap. I have $500 invested into mine total(with new timing components, clutch, seals, etc) without any recoup of $ from extra parts sales. It's very, very, very simple and effective. Don't believe the crap people spout about it being worthless and all that crap, the power's absolutely there. If you don't have the desire or need to port, the F23's head flows better, and actually has a better camshaft and valvetrain than the F22A6, not to mention it has VTEC-E which will help boost economy. Down in the block, you get two more mm of stroke and an extra mm of bore. There's a TON to be gained with the usual bolt ons, even more with tuning and hogging out the intake manifold's lower plenum's runner like many H22/H23 people do.
I would suggest if you just need something on the cheap to get your car more reliable, get the parts car running and determine if that motor is in better shape than what you currently have. But as stated above, the F23a1 is a great option. And if you want to go with the F23a JDM motor, is is just a few more hp than the USDM version. For the VTECH side of the swap, you can use the ECM from a VTECH equipped 94-95 Accord (the EX) for whichever trans you are using. I am far from an F-Series expert, but as far as OEM stuff, I think the F22a6 has the best cam profile for non VTECH, and I think the exhaust and intake manifolds were better as well. Someone with more knowledge can say for sure. If you use the F23a (or a1), the original exhaust manifold should bolt up, and the F23 has the best flowing intake on it, so you would want to keep that.
I guess the long and short, if you are buying the parts car just to acquire a core motor to rebuild, you might hold off on that and get a motor that is better to start with and doesn't need rebuilt.
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I guess the long and short, if you are buying the parts car just to acquire a core motor to rebuild, you might hold off on that and get a motor that is better to start with and doesn't need rebuilt.
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