So i have a 95 integra special edition b18b1, i put a ported n polished b20 head on it from a crv and now i am installing a t3/t4 turbo, gonna just do like 7psi,my wastegate spring is only 8psi so i think i have to stay at 7 for now? But real question,its automatic, im upgrading injectors and all a little bit but as far as tuning, not much help for an automatic,no i dont want to convert to manual right now,im good but i was going to buy a basemap chip from an ebay guy for my car,but i know it needs "fine tuned" anyways. So i was looking at getting crome dealer version and moates burn2 chip burner and a datalogging cable..im guessing thats everything i need? Have a p75 ecu i already socketed it. But since i have to fine tune it is there any use in getting the basemap? Will i be able to see the settings of the basemap if i hook up that chip or whatever? I dont know what i need to look at or tweak to make it run as good as it can, ive never tuned myself but i want too so dont just tell me to find a shop..can anyone tell or show me some basics? Has anyone tuned something like this? Does anyone have a tune already made? Seems like a common build, sorry for so many questions and bad punctuation..was never good at that but i appreciate any help or advice..if you are just gonna say something ignorant that doesnt help me at all please save your time, otherwise thank you very much and i appreciate it..i would pay someone for the right help, i just dont wanna just go to a shop though, want to learn or have a tune sent i can use and look at to see what it is they did and changed, thank you

 

Wow that was long sorry

 

Oh and datalogging does the program read it? Like all i need is a datalog cable or?

 

You do realize with these types of basic questions you REALLY should NOT be even touching your car tuning wise, right? The worst part of all this is you are trying to buy a basemap off an eBay user. This spells catastrophe all in itself. You can EASILY blow your engine if the wrong settings are input. Garbage in, garbage out.

A lot of us on here are self taught, myself included. Everyone starts somewhere but you aren't even trying. You can ask anyone who is self taught, if you aren't diligent and willing to help yourself you shouldn't even try tuning. Period.

For the cost of CROME Dealer and all the components needed you would be MUCH better off with NepTune and a Demon RTP board. It ends up being cheaper with more capabilities, support, reliability, and did I mention great SUPPORT? I have CROME Dealer, I promise it isn't worth it for the hobbyists - if you are stuck on CROME then get the Pro at the most. IF you are STILL stuck on CROME You will need Burn2 and a Hulog at minimum although Ostrich 2.0 is HIGHLY preferred.

To learn, read this manual by VegasInvasion and once you are done read it again. After that read it one more time from start to finish. I am dead serious. If you feel like donating then give it to him. It is one heck of a manual and you can apply the basics to other EMS platforms...

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...ng%20Manual%20

Another good learning source is AEM's instruction / how to tune manual. Don't get too caught up in the EMS specific stuff. If you have anymore questions right now you are beyond help. Come back after you have read, analyzed, and comprehended everything you read in those manuals. If you can't get it from there then you should definitely be taking it to a shop.

PS - Trying to work with the auto can be done but it is a HUGE pita and you need just the right components. Search for Spawne32 's build threads for more info.

 

As far as I know neither Crome or Neptune support automatic transmissions. eCtune does however support is minimal.

 

Yeah a tuner said crome does support it but i dont know that for sure, and ive been recommended to a turbo edit i think its called, thank you for all that, ill definetely study all of that, yea i know trying to self teach myself could make a problem, but thats why im putting the turbo on my old cheap integra first, if something happens i have access too ridiculously cheap parts,even a new engine, if the auto tranny blows up ill be swapping to manual but until then im goin with it, and i only say crome dealer cuz i got a guy that can hook me up with a dealer license for cheaper than pro..neptune i havent really heard anything about automatic wise, ectune..how much does that average? Ill do my homework before i actually attempt to do anything, the guy with the basemap says he has the same car and has done the build but i guess u never know whos telling the truth, i just wanted a basemap in hopes that i can hook it up possibly and look at what the settings are they made just to kinda get an idea, my tuner "whitelightning tuning" hes a straight up badass well known tuner but for dodge, he made my charger tune but he said if i can get a couple pointers towards the honda obd1 setup and maybe read a basemap or two he can talk to his team of tuners and hes sure he can figure it out, but hes all dodge so it would be a learning experience for him too but at least he has tuning experience, but yea ill read into everything and get back with more questions im sure..

 

The only reason I was entertaining tuning with those platforms is because IIRC 94 and 95 Integras have a separate controller for the transmission. Like I said, look up Spawne32 and his build threads. He has done everything and WAY more than what you are trying to do. Unfortunately he has moved on to Cobalts now and isn't really on this forum anymore. Another person that was helping him tune is DDTech aka ALL M0T0R - simple research would have popped all this up.

 

Not sure why my last post didn't...post.

You won't get a chipped ECU to operate your lockup, it's just going to hover at 3k. You might get the P28-A52 rom to operate it, but there's no datalogging.
As a Crome professional, just blindly trust me when I strongly urge you not to spend a cent on Crome. Neptune or Hondata, that's it.

But since that's not going to work for you anyway, use an AEM FI/C or Greddy eManage if you want to get a decent tune out of it.
Or if you're terrible at budgeting and like to take risks, get an Apexi Neo or VAFCII, it's better than nothing.

 

Ok cool ill look up the aem and greddy set up..yeah a guy is offering me crome dealer license for 50 bucks..the guy that made my basetune said to use that..but you arent the first to say no to crome so im leaning towards sticking with what you say, was going to get a moates burn2 and a hulog datalog cable and then crome dealer..if anyone feels like answering it..im wondering why crome isnt good to use? And the aem and greddy tuning set ups..is that all i need or do i still need the burn2 and hulog?

 

Unless you're a professional tuner offering crome as a bare *** minimum better-than-nothing alternative to customers, you'll spend more money that you'll save trying to make it work.

If you can't take my word for it, I won't stop you from learning the hard way. At least read my manual first.

But more relevant to your wallet, the new version of crome glitches the fuel multiplier in the gold rom when you use your friend's pirated reg string, so just hold on to that $50 and save up.
You'll be glad you did.

 

Ok cool yea ive heard the same thing from enough people that ill listen..but ok someone answer me this..my car is automatic so i cant use certain tuners like hondata as example..but i already have a moates burn2 eeprom programmer..and a hulog datalogger..and a aem uego wideband set up..so with all of that said..whats best and or easiest for me to use to get her running safely? Id like it to be as cheap as possible but i understand gotta do what u gotta do, ive spent thousands and im not gonna cheap out at the end but if i can save money safely i would like too..what about this turboedit program ive heard of?

 

You can NOT chip tune an automatic.
Either convert to manual, or get a piggyback controller.

Fast, Cheap, Reliable - you can only pick two.

 

What about the external transmission controller? Or was that guy full of it?

 

If your chassis is wired for the external TCU then it theoretically should be possible, however the ECU is still responsible for the lockup solenoid, and I've only gotten that to work on the P28-A52 rom, which has no datalog support or boost features.

 

You could always use a TCC lock-up kit made for V8's from say TCI depending on the lock-up circuitry of the automatic transmission in question. Obviously I am sure all of this is beyond the scope of the OP's capabilities anyways. I'll be quiet now haha.

 

Is the only reason for the torque converter lock up solenoid?
If so, could you not designate an output (say AC clutch for ex) to
activate the lockup solenoid under specific (user set) conditions?

Just wondering...

 

Torque lockup is engaged when the rotation speed of the engine matches the rotation speed of the input shaft, give or take for load and gear conditions. It's too complex for a general output. You could make it work for a drag setup, but not for street. Even still, you can't override the shift points so it would be really limited on a drag setup.
My arms are tired from beating on this horse.

 

You can chip and tune with the auto...I did it for about a year in my accord before I converted to manual. As long as you're OBD1 and have a dedicated TCU it can be done fairly easily. I just used a standard chipped P75 and used P72 base code. The transmissions are garbage though. I started to learn how to tune on it and as the car got faster(on 8psi) just with better tuning the trans started crapping out.

 

Good information. Did you have to wire the TCU in, or did the car come with it? And was it an auto P75?

 

Yea it was auto p75 i got the kit of sockets and datalogger n capacitors and all that and got it all soldered in, rebuilt the entire engine, been workin on it a few months slowly, just last night i got it to start, still gotta finish a few things, havent bolted up the turbo manifold or turbo and couple other things, but it did start, that was exciting..i had an experienced mechanic guide me but thats my first rebuild..b18b1..took the head off and put on a b20 head, maybe lower compression for turbo? Completely reworked head,valves,seats, port and polish job, everything that could possibly need done is done, now its just hookin up the turbo, pcv valve and couple dumb things, a good day and shell be running, a had tuner make me a basemap for my turbo build so i can at least run it but then after that i was gonna get it tuned better obviously i already got my chips burner,couple chips,hulog datalog cable,and crome dealer..i didnt pay much for crome dealer but ive already had it, if i have to go with something else i will, but to end this so you dont have to keep beating a horse or whatever lol, what should i do now considering where im at and what ive got? It wont be a daily driver, just something to run up n down the road with occaisonally on the weekends

 

Sorry for my grammar and pronunciation

 

Oh and yea im just gonna be automatic till it goes to **** then i will be swapping to manual, but if its possible to buy sometime before doing that im going too

 

Pretty certain you can use the auto P75 with Neptune on an auto 94-95 chassis: HA Motorsports OBD1 VTEC Neptune Auto Trans 94-95 Integra ECU