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200 to the wheels... whats it take?

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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 05:18 PM
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Default 200 to the wheels... whats it take?

this didnt get the response i had hoped for in the tech forum so i decided to post here...

Starting with a basic itr swap
aem
jdm 4-1
catback
take it from there...

P.S. Happy Halloween
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 05:19 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (thinkbrianthink)

SVP got 211 at the wheels with...

Stock Bottom End
Milled head (dont know specs)
Skunk2 Stage 3 cam (i think stage 3)
Skunk2 Cam gears
AEM Coild Air Intake
MSD 6aL ignition system

Dont know if 211 was pulled with a Hytek drag header, or JDM 4-1 (open)

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[Modified by 2kTypeRHatch, 5:22 PM 10/31/2002]
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 05:20 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (thinkbrianthink)

-100 shot of NOS will probably take you to 275 HP to the wheels...
-NOS is only $650, so there you go.... GG
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 05:22 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (dut619)

great responses...
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (thinkbrianthink)

takes a lot more than you think...my boy has a 2000 itr...fully built toda head..with toda c cams...hondata..jdm header...aem cai and put down like 190
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 05:57 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (futreBoosteR)

get an h22 with a 50 shot of nos....there ya go...ya see theres lots of platforms capcable of reaching 200whp...finding the correct compromise between form and function...
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 06:25 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (2trix)

get an h22 with a 50 shot of nos....there ya go...ya see theres lots of platforms capcable of reaching 200whp...finding the correct compromise between form and function...
-if you are trying to get 200 whp with any motor, go for a h22
-my previous civic made 187 whp all motor, the head and block was stock... just had the regular: I, H, E, vtec controller, and re-programmed ecu...
-if you get the head done I am pretty sure you can reach the 200 mark
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 06:30 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (dut619)

Forced Induction
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 06:33 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (thinkbrianthink)

hone...its kind of dumb how you say your starting with a ITR swap but people suggest you to get an h22...that resets the scenario, but not if you bore your ITR...

er, get a turbo.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 06:36 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (thinkbrianthink)

Goto http://www.aj-racing.com give them an e-mail. These guys should be able to give you ur answer.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 06:59 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (SpoonN1)

b20 block (11.5:1)
b16 head by AEBS
CTR cams
Spoon TB
ITR Manifold
gears
hondata
jdm 4-1
2.5" all the way back w/ test pipe
aem cai

205`ish.

Ryan
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 07:23 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (vtecvoodoo)

HondaSaver cams

'Nuff said

Watch out for well over 200hp in our demo car in about a month or so.

-Nick-
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 07:26 PM
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So if I put your cams in a b16 I`ll make over 200?
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 07:28 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (vtecvoodoo)

So if I put your cams in a b16 I`ll make over 200?
DAMN RIGHT!! and by damn right i mean no.... however, since he has a C5, it is quite possible.

I knew someone would give me a hard time

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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 07:56 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (B19CivicHB)

200 at the wheels isnt that easy. In a B18C5... I'd go with FI to get those numbers. You cant always go with what 1 guy said or what 1 guy pulled on a dyno. Its meaningless.
One guy can get 160HP at the wheels with a stock B16A2, and you'll have 10,000 others that will get 140-145HP. Its just inconsistant as every motor is individually different from one another. IMO.. if I wanted to get 200 at the wheels with a b18c5.. I'd rebuild it with PCT pistons and a JUN stage 3 package. Add Hondata and lots of tuning and that should put you close to 200 at the wheels.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 08:05 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (CRX_VTEC)

Get a good set of cams, I/H/E ,some dyno tuning, Cam gears, port and polish the head, and a bigger throttle body. That should get you pretty close.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 08:16 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (Extreme_Hybrid_Hatch)

i have a sohc (OH MY GOD!!) with a greddy turbo pushing 212. so turbo worked for me
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 08:29 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (BlackNoise)

Yup. Sell the B18c5 and get a turbo sohc.
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 10:50 PM
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Yup. Sell the B18c5 and get a turbo sohc.
I second that
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 11:05 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (gshockbreaker)

Yup. Sell the B18c5 and get a turbo sohc.

I second that
Am i really reading this?
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Old Oct 31, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (C5_ALLMOTOR)

What's all this I've been reading lately about Hondasaver cams and the like?

Somebody fill me in

heck, even send me an IM.

Any H series goodies available?
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 12:17 AM
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200 to the wheels...

2002 Japanese ITR engine.

190+whp in a 99 hatch.
220 to the flywheel.
I,H,E should get you to 200.
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 01:02 AM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (hot_EG)

What's up with these hondasaver cams? Any more info.
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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 01:18 AM
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takes a lot more than you think...my boy has a 2000 itr...fully built toda head..with toda c cams...hondata..jdm header...aem cai and put down like 190
Your friend should take it to another tuner, people have made higher than that with less mods.

Here are a few links that have very impressive dyno charts with the included mods listed.

http://www.importreview.com
http://www.sgt-racing.com

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Old Nov 1, 2002 | 05:39 AM
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Default Re: 200 to the wheels... whats it take? (C5_ALLMOTOR)

i ordered the hondasaver valvetrain.
and plan on the hondasaver US4 cams.
with a quick piston change to forged 12:1s,
ill garuntee 225, thats my goal, ill hit it.
and the AN-R header
LOOK OUT
Man, your car is looking more and more like mine (ie hondasaver valvetrain/cams, an-r header, 12.5:1 cr). Glad to see you got in contact with Robert. Did he get you taked care of?

-Nick-
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