Power FC , is it worth it?
Hey everyone, I'm just wondering if the Power FC ecu itself is worth getting w/o the commander? used for a relatively stock car with basic bolt ons. any thoughts and opinions are appreciated, Thanks!
if u leave it stock, you will ping like crazy
trust me i know, had to drive from one side of town to the other
ignition is set really high
trust me i know, had to drive from one side of town to the other
ignition is set really high
hmm... don't know if power fc is worth it for relatively stock car... but hondata made a great noticable difference for my relatively stock car.. and with latest s200 it should get even better...
he's asking whether its worth it without the commander.
IMO no. this means you're basically getting a stock JDM ITR ecu. that's the base map it comes with, and the commander is the only way of being able to change your parameters. well not only way, but easiest way. so in short, no
IMO no. this means you're basically getting a stock JDM ITR ecu. that's the base map it comes with, and the commander is the only way of being able to change your parameters. well not only way, but easiest way. so in short, no
he's asking whether its worth it without the commander.
IMO no. this means you're basically getting a stock JDM ITR ecu. that's the base map it comes with, and the commander is the only way of being able to change your parameters. well not only way, but easiest way. so in short, no
IMO no. this means you're basically getting a stock JDM ITR ecu. that's the base map it comes with, and the commander is the only way of being able to change your parameters. well not only way, but easiest way. so in short, no
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He says HONDATA!
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He says HONDATA!
MWUAhhahahaha....
if u leave it stock, you will ping like crazy
trust me i know, had to drive from one side of town to the other
ignition is set really high
trust me i know, had to drive from one side of town to the other
ignition is set really high
No.
I have one. I like the unit alot but one big part of the power FC I like is the ability to display sensor readings.
That being said I have tuned once but not as well as I would like and I am of the opinin for what you (unless you have a hook up) will pay for the Power FC the hondata will make more power. You can have the new hondata S200 system, harness and P28 ECU for roughly what the power FC with no commander is going to cost you (I think, verify with sgT)
FYI, Power FC plugged in with base map in place of my Stock ECU made .9 whp and 1.6 ft-lbs of Tq.
I have one. I like the unit alot but one big part of the power FC I like is the ability to display sensor readings.
That being said I have tuned once but not as well as I would like and I am of the opinin for what you (unless you have a hook up) will pay for the Power FC the hondata will make more power. You can have the new hondata S200 system, harness and P28 ECU for roughly what the power FC with no commander is going to cost you (I think, verify with sgT)
FYI, Power FC plugged in with base map in place of my Stock ECU made .9 whp and 1.6 ft-lbs of Tq.
I take it the commander is what makes you be able to tune?
Austin
PowerFC rocks
Hondata sucks
base maps will not make your kar "ping"
Hondata sucks
base maps will not make your kar "ping"
Austin
PowerFC rocks
Hondata sucks
base maps will not make your kar "ping"
Hondata sucks
base maps will not make your kar "ping"
on which one you happen to recieve
just a correction, the base program for the power fc is the b16b, not the jdm itr.
Austin - who now has Hondata...
WRONG...they sell them for the B18C and for the B16B, I owned one for the B18C, that had the Commander for the B16B(that's what the owner's manual said).
Austin - who now has Hondata...
Austin - who now has Hondata...
Austin-who is wrong and may want to call a power excel shop.
apexi does offer newer programs for the us spec motors which cannot get the same grade fuel as in japan.
BTW-the commander is ALSO the same for civic/integra.
we are talking about part #414-H003 which is for 96+civic and 94-01 integra correct?
Austin-who is wrong and may want to call a power excel shop.
apexi does offer newer programs for the us spec motors which cannot get the same grade fuel as in japan.
BTW-the commander is ALSO the same for civic/integra.
Austin-who is wrong and may want to call a power excel shop.
apexi does offer newer programs for the us spec motors which cannot get the same grade fuel as in japan.
BTW-the commander is ALSO the same for civic/integra.
When I bought the PowerFC A'PEXi USA could not answer a single one of my questions, did not even want to speak with me about the PowerFC...couldn't give me a date it would be availability, so I bought it from Japan.
Austin
Apexi doesn't answer alot of questions because they would rather you talk to a power excel shop. seeing as they are the only shops deemed to offer support for that particular product. i will check my master catalog later on to see the differences between the two. Apexi does have a US spec power full computer though. i have the b16b program in my FC and was able to tune out the knocking my running the ignition timing a little retarded over stock.


