Is there any real difference between GE, Moshimoto and BLOX sandwich plates? I've seen reviews of them leaking (just about every brand) and such. Trying to get a final verdict on this.

I've thought of just running a 1/8 BSPT fitting and a braided line to a block on the firewall for the oil feed, stock unit, and aftermarket oil pressure sending unit.

A simple vote and reason why would be great. Picture of your setup is a plus.

 

I have a generic one (oil sandwich plate) off ebay, hasnt leaked since i turbo'ed the car (in 2 years)

 

Noted. Care to expand? I've seen people swear by one seller over another, etc.

 

Due to all the bad reviews I went with the Edelbrock sandwich plate not one leak been running it for years. I personally did not like the T fitting albeit was a good quality stainless T. It looks horrible the rats nest of hoses and such coming off it. The sandwich plate is a much cleaner setup. I just recently bought the Earls sandwich plate, I have a oil cooler I am going to run as well soon.

 

The T-fitting wasn't really an option. A distribution block mounted on the intake or firewall with a SS hose to it was the only other competition for the sandwich plate.

 

I have the old tuner toyblock fitting...5-6 years without a single issue....

but I recently got the greddy oil sandwich(well whole oil cooler kit) main reason I liked it is because it has a built in thermostat....only thing worse than cooking your oil is running too cold of oil...this allows the oil to only be fed through the oil cooler once oil reached a certain temp....it has spare ports but I already have a functional setup, I chose not to change.

 

I was looking at the golden eagle ones. I have a blox sandwich plate that I been usinng for 6 years maybe never leaked.

The ge has the ports actually after the filter so you get filtered oil to the turbo etc.

 

The Blox runs around $50 right? That's similar to the Moshimoto. Any difference between them? The GE is like $100 (only one I found was VTEC conversion too).

I will only run the oil feed line and oil pressure gauge off of this.

 

What about thermostatic sandwiches?

And I remember some where about some sandwiches not allowing filtered oil to oil supply to filter.

Any insight in this?

 

What about thermostatic sandwiches?

And I remember some where about some sandwiches not allowing filtered oil to oil supply to filter.

Any insight in this?

 

I'll get a pic in a bit, I made my distribution block and put it in the cowl area, with a bulkhead fitting. I got rid of the factory warning switch and went with a 20 pound one, I would trust that a lot more then 3 pounds. I dont like sandwich plates, I have a filter relocation adapter, and even with straight in and out ports, it needs some port work done. I just decided to change to -10 lines from eight, having the filter relocated lets me go to a bigger filter, which is more oil capacity.

 

The problem with a fitting off of the oil pressure sender port is you are sending unfiltered oil to the turbo.

and before someone chimes in and says big deal, over time it will cause bearing wear. the pump pickup only screens out debris large enough to damage the oil filter pump, the clearance between the turbine shaft and bearings is much tighter... like engine bearing tight.

you wouldn't run your motor without an oil filter would you?

and 99% of the sandwich plates on the market supply filtered oil.

 

A few older members will recall the rash of journal bearing precision turbos that failed left and right that precision deemed to be oil contamination... every single person said that was bullshit until they said that their feedline was a tee off the motor pre-filter.. after they were informed about sending the turbo dirty oil they still couldn't connect the dots lol.

 

if you run a good remote filter base, with ports on both sides, you can tap off of the outlet side of the filter for your distribution block, then everything gets clean filtered oil. The reason I dont like sandwich adapters, is many turn the output 90 degrees right at the filter, I have an oil cooler, and I dont want any more restriction then I have to have

 

That's why they make in line oil filters, so we can still use a distribution block from the oil sending unit and send safe filtered oil to the turbo.

 

I have decided to go with a sandwich plate. I guess I'll give it a go. Anything against Blox in this regards?

 

I thought it was the other way around where 90% of the sandwhich plates actually delivered unfiltered oil and the oil pressure sensor is filterd?

 

You give people **** about ebay turbos and you're going with blox?

 

I thought that too lightningteg^ on my lsvtec I have both the sandwich and t fitting .... Known filtered oil from the ge sandwich to the turbo since the restrictor is soo small and to the gauge .... the T for the head since it has direct pressure from the pump

 

pardon the dirt as my car is under construction, but I hid everything inside of the wiper cowl, with a bulkhead fitting

 

plans are to change to -10 before the car runs, and try to get rid of some 90s, but space is really tight. I'm hoping the -10 and quality hose ends will help overcome some of the fact that some are required. I ran the line to the distribution block from the outlet side of the filter, and the sender on the inlet side is for future data logging.

 

This conflicts with this:

I don't believe '****' would be the term. I advise against it and give props to success stories. I've asked about brands and gotten no direct answers here. Like I said, I've read a dozen threads with opposing information. This is turning out to just be another one with mix matched information.

I asked about Blox because it was mentioned previously. Oh wait, that was you. Why sass me when I was asking if a product you used was okay?

Also, Greg at Go-autoworks sells Blox sandwich plates and most of the stuff they sell is decent.

So a separate filter, then the block, then my additional fittings? That's your suggestion?

 

Orrr Tap wherever you want and just run the filter inline to turbo.

 

Done. That's easy as all get out. The vote is 5-1 for the sandwich plate.

 

Ahh.. well if the poll shows 5 to 1, then I guess that's the end of that chapter. Damned any information about either apparatus, or why one may be used in certain situations, but since the Poll did all the work, why bother..

It kinda like today's voter ignorance I've noticed increase over the years. With all our technological advances and the ability for the individual to find endless amounts of information at their fingertips, but will only remember the 30 second blurb of a politician's position on some redundant matter; if only you looked closer, its not always that simple... Regardless, I digress.


Well, its not that simple. It really depends upon the situation and the setup. If this is simply a matter of feeding oil to the turbocharger, and maybe an oil gauge or two, then the sandwich plates you listed, is more like 6 of one, half-dozen of the other, when it comes to your preference; they all work about the same for the most part.

For those that use, say an oil cooler (Be it air-to-air or air-to-water) in which an oil thermostat is needed, or to try and utilize multiple oil monitoring systems, the choices are rather limited, and much more costly. In those cases, the use a distribution block with a -4AN line instead of the typical -3AN (Because 99% of available inline oil filters offer -4AN as their smallest size) would still be considered a reasonable option if one wants to ensure there is filtered oil going to the turbocharger. Especially, say, if one is trying to both LS/VTEC AND an oil cooler simultaneously.

This is very common in Mitsubishi and Subaru turbo applications in which certain feed sizes are needed in order for their aftermarket systems to work because their access to oil outside of the OEM parameters are typically sources that use an unfiltered source (like the Oil Filter Housings on DSMs).

So, pick your poison.. Its really more about what you're using as your turbocharger, other oil-supplied apparatuses, etc to determine whether or not a simple Distribution block, or sandwich plate is needed.