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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 05:31 PM
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So this is the original build on my car
http://www.newfoundlandmotorsports.c...p?f=19&t=36081

I just purchased a set of BC stage 2 cams and Springs/ retainers. After putting the motor together I was setting the timing belt tension and it seems as though my pistons are coming in contact with my valves. The motor turns about 1/10 a turn and then stops. Im afraid to force it for obvious reassons. My question is this: Should I be having this problem with this setup or have I done something wrong? Typed this on my phone please excuse typos.
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 09:49 AM
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Brian Crower?

Sorry.
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by d1ck
I just purchased a set of BC stage 2 cams and Springs/ retainers. After putting the motor together I was setting the timing belt tension and it seems as though my pistons are coming in contact with my valves. The motor turns about 1/10 a turn and then stops. Im afraid to force it for obvious reassons. My question is this: Should I be having this problem with this setup or have I done something wrong? Typed this on my phone please excuse typos.
Engine do not turn around even smallcam? Is so, definitely something wrong. Timing off or something else. If you are talking about Brian Crower, i have exactly same cams in my 81.5x87.2* and there is lot of room even in hicam.

*K566M815 Wisecos, stock Type-R valves, OEM headgasket, block and head machined (-0.028").
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Old Jul 24, 2014 | 02:25 PM
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Was the bottom end apart as well, or just the head to do the cams? Are all the markings for TDC lined up and what cam gears are you running?
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 03:59 AM
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So it turns out that I just didn't put enough assembly lube on the cam and it was hitting a dry spot on one of the lobes. I put some more lube on it and it turns over nicely. Thanks!


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Brian Crower?

Sorry.
I thought BC made quality parts?
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 03:45 PM
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I was about to say, Those camshafts aren't very big, on primaries or vtec. there shouldn't be any v2p issues on that standard of a setup.

when rotating like that, you're on the primaries. Ensure you have proper lubrication like you did, and the cam rails are torqued to spec. Don't make your Tbelt too tight, or too lose.
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by d1ck
I thought BC made quality parts?
Who told you that??

Bruce has disowned Brian over this mess AFAIK.
Originally Posted by Bruce Crower
You are now on the only historical Crower Website.
We have been manufacturing quality products for over (50) fifty years.
We have received numerous comments and inquiries from our valued customers.
They have been confused by other Crower Websites and products.
The time has come to stop the confusion.
These other Crower Websites and products are not affiliated with us and we do not support them in any way; nor warranty their products.........
The Crower name and our products are genuine, not knockoffs.
Our precision Crower products come from our facility.
When you buy a Crower product,
you can feel secure in knowing where it was made and who to call for the answers.

Brian Crower sells junk cores from China with literally ZERO R&D... I'd run ******* Blox over Brian's crap.
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 2LEM1
Who told you that??

Bruce has disowned Brian over this mess AFAIK.



Brian Crower sells junk cores from China with literally ZERO R&D... I'd run ******* Blox over Brian's crap.
where was this?
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where was this?

I used to work for a Machine shop and the owner was friends with Bruce, a lot of this is second hand info from Bruce, but yeah he wasn't pleased when Brian started using the Crower name to outsource cam profiles to China.

That quote is directly off the Crower website.
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Old Jul 28, 2014 | 04:32 PM
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PS - I'm pretty sure Brian Crower is Bruce's nephew... I think he's Bruce's brother's son. Not 100% sure though.
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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2LEM1
I used to work for a Machine shop and the owner was friends with Bruce, a lot of this is second hand info from Bruce, but yeah he wasn't pleased when Brian started using the Crower name to outsource cam profiles to China.

That quote is directly off the Crower website.
This is Dustin from BC. This is 100 percent not true as we use the same cam core as CROWER as I worked there for 10 years before coming to BC. It is true Bruce was not happy when Brian started his own business but we make a a high quality cam using the same a material as them. PAC racing makes our valve springs and we make our it retainers.
If anyone has any questions or I can be of any help my direct line is 619-749-9018 ext 101 or you can email me at dustin@briancrower.com
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Originally Posted by dustin213
This is Dustin from BC. This is 100 percent not true as we use the same cam core as CROWER as I worked there for 10 years before coming to BC. It is true Bruce was not happy when Brian started his own business but we make a a high quality cam using the same a material as them. PAC racing makes our valve springs and we make our it retainers.
If anyone has any questions or I can be of any help my direct line is 619-749-9018 ext 101 or you can email me at dustin@briancrower.com
Thanks for clearing that up!

Your retainers are made in house?
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Old Jul 30, 2014 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 2LEM1
Thanks for clearing that up!

Your retainers are made in house?



Yes sir.
First there was the original Crower which I started working at in 1996.
Daniel Crower (Bruce's son) left when I started as I actually replaced him in the dyno room. He started Crower Power which now mainly focuses on Motorcylce products.
Brian left in 2006 and I joined him in 2007 here at BC.



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