I just purchased a Go-autoworks tuner kit

Having major issues fitting my radiator. I do have a aftermarket radiator extra thick, but the area I have to work with is so small im not to sure if a stock radiator would even fit. I will try a stock radiator this weekend. I was just hoping maybe someone had some experience with this problem. The manifold has such an angle my turbo is far away from my block but its so far away from my block its causing issues. See pictures hopefully someone with a tuner kit could reply if they ran into this problem before.






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Broom handle LOL. showing that if you go straight up from the radiator mount it hits the turbo itself regardless of how thick the radiator is

 

You will need a half sized radiator. Very common.

 

forgot to mention its a civic and yes I am using a half size radiator

 

Are you sure you don't have the turbo on backwards? That's assuming it came with a downpipe.

If not, be more specific about what you are worried touching. Worried it is too thick and will touch? Or it will touch the side because the rad is too wide?

 

Try rotating it 180? Downpipe; passenger or driver side facing?

 

that manifold doesn't look ac compatible in the first place... it kicks the turbo out too far and doesn't place it on an angle like every other ac manifold on the planet.

better photo of the manifold?

 

Thanks for the reply
its an A/C compatible kit with downpipe on drivers side. I dont think i can rotate it 180 pretty sure the intercooler piping works the way i have it pictured

 

Is that Borg unit used specifically for this kit, or is it something you added/purchased aside from the rest?

Almost every "street" kit Greg makes is made for a smaller Turbonetics unit, since he is a dealer.

If you are using a turbo much larger than the rest of the kit was designed for, ofcourse you will have fitment issues.

More info is needed to touch all bases.

 

can you get a picture looking down on the top of the manifold?

most ac log manifolds have some sort of angled flange and/or they position the turbo closer to the block.

also what turbine housing do you have? if you have the wrong outlet bolt pattern that can affect how the turbo clears things

 

It was sold as ac compatible. Seems to me like its kicked out kinda to far i agree.

 

dude you're gonna hate that batmo wheel... they performed horribly, HORRIBLY.

I think the problem is your bullseye turbine housing... IIRC that manifold was designed for a garrett 4 bolt turbine housing, not a 5 bolt. Of which the bullseye housing is a goofy 5 bolt design

 

Well that sux.........Well if i cant figure it out by this weekend I will just go back to NA and think about buying a new setup all together I guess

 

You may have to move the bottom base holder of the radiator over a bit too fit, as well as a smaller turbocharger compressor cover.

The tuner kit and street kit held differing turbine housings and compressor covers.

The street kit uses a cast manifold designed for Ford style 5 bolt turbine housings to work with a/c . (I still don't know why they don't inform the customer about that distinction).

The tuner kit allows for 4 bolt and 5 bolt Turbos as long as they were T04E size, and no larger.

The BEP turbo down here uses a 4/5 bolt design that Dan P developed back in 2005 to help with fitment of smaller engine bays.. the problem is that the cover is larger than a T04E that Garrett uses...plus, the cartridge is 2"-3" longer than a Garrett, which could also cause interference with your radiator.

That turbo is too large for that setup, with a not-so-good design wheel. You don't have to start over, but you do have to make some adjustments to that lower radiator support. By moving it over a bit. Gotta cut.. :-(, simply got the wrong parts combination... which does happen occasionally with kit makers with a ton of choices..

 

I mean the turbo will still work but when you compare the performance of the original cast wheel to the BatMo wheel you'll find the original wheel outperforms it basically everywhere.

while that particular Borg Warner cartridge is longer than your typical Garrett unit I know that Greg at GoAutoworks fabs most of his kits around BorgWarner turbochargers, mostly due to his preference for the brand and typically if a BorgWarner will fit, so will any other similarly sized turbo.

I think the biggest fitment issue is the bullseye housing. IIRC they had a weird volute centerline when compared to other big brands turbine housing designs and a lot of people found out that when using that turbine housing that things didn't always work right

 

That's true. I'm sure Greg knew that the BEP would fit. Just not to this extent.

 

Well thanks everyone for replys. Took the compressor housing off last night and got the radiator in with no fan or shroud and things are looking pretty bad. As far as moving the radiator over it would need to move about 1.5" to account for the compressor housing, and i wouldnt be able to mount my radiator fan and shroud. it would need to be mounted in the front in some fashion. I would also need to relocate my radiator reservoir and cut portions of my radiator support on top to move the radiator. A smaller radiator could help with some of these issues but it would still need to be relocated.

 

Welcome to the world of modifications. Make something fit is generally the name of the game. Lol. Manifold doesn't position that particular turbo well. Looks like a 4 bolt or vband housing would help give you more room but you'll still need to modify things to make stuff fit.

 

Im thinking all i really need is a different manifold ...one without such an angle to it, more straight down and positioning the turbo closer to the block. however that might screw up my downpipe angle?

 

which means you'll need to modify... again.. like you said, welcome to the world of modifications

 

sad thing is ive had several turbo setups, and my share of problems thats why I wanted a kit. Guess i shoulda gone with something more cookie cutter

 

Try a different turbine housing first. I think Greg built that kit around a 4 bolt turbine housing.

it will take a lot of work to get everything to work with the parts combo you have now.

There isn't enough room to move the radiator that far over and still have it parallel to the core support, you'd have to rotate the passenger side of the radiator towards the firewall to be able to move it that far over, which causes it's own set of headaches.

contact greg @ goautoworks and get his feedback, your best bet in this situation is to go straight to the source.

 

Yup ive been working with hiim from the start, unfortunately nothing we have tried has resolved this issue yet. Luckily he has been doin his best so far to resolve this. He wants me to try a stock radiator. So im gonna pick one up today and go from there. Just wanted to post up to get more options/opinions

 

Wow...so if you wanted to buy/make a turbo fit without this nightmare, what are your options? And with regards to turbo I'd say something to support 450hp daily driver... What are typically the slimmest/smallest setups?

 

Pretty scary for those of us contemplating buying a kit...from any company really.. Especially when it's a daily driver..

 

a different, known ac compatible manifold, like Greg's cast one or another brand would probably fix the issue but then you have to address the downpipe fitment, charge pipe fitment, and oil return (if your line is already cut to length with fittings installed)

however I think your issue is the turbo.

you need to ask Greg if he designed his manifolds to fit the BEP turbine housing and if he considered the clearance required for the BorgWarner T04B style compressor cover. the BW T04B cover is larger in size and of a different design than the covers from Garrett, Turbonetics, Precision, etc. when you factor in the turbine housing and compressor cover I think you'll have an issue no matter what manifold you use, especially with a passenger side orientation.

if you use a cast ac manifold it will place the turbo so close to the block that I don't think you can grind enough material away for the BW T04B cover to clear in addition to how the BEP housing positions the turbo in relation to the manifold.

you need to contact bullseye as well, since I'm ***-u-me-ing that's who you got the turbo from since the BatMo wheel is their design and the only ones who offer it.

ask them if anyone has reported this issue with similar turbos and if they can source a more typical turbine housing, that might allow fitment with the bigger/taller BW compressor cover.