NGK BKR6EIX-11 v. Special Race Plugs

Guess what got whooooped

 

nice. same heat range, same gap, same material?

 

6 v 9 heat range

NGK is resistor, the race is non-resistor

NGK is iridium, the race is copper

the difference is in the electrode design, not the characteristics listed above

BKR6 is projected tip, the race is not

the best plugs usually start showing gains from 6k and up (90mph here)

Hint F1 doesn't run NGK

 

"In 1998, a car with a Mercedes engine fitted with NGK spark plugs took NGK to its 100th victory in Formula One, and in 2007, cars fitted with NGK spark plugs achieved wins in all 17 races, stretching the total to 200 wins.

In 2014 season, NGK is officially supplying spark plugs to two engine manufacturers, Mercedes and Ferrari, who in turn supply engines to six Formula One teams."

http://ngkntk.co.uk/index.php/motorsport/formula-one/



Pack up your sales **** and get out of here.

 

The other company is champion

http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/spark-plug.html

 

this plug technology is not for sale

power can be had from spark plugs

 

ok, so different heat range, different material, different style tips (different performance). plug gap is unknown. so this makes the race plugs better than NGK as a WHOLE?

why dont u try it against the NGK r5671a-9? .. that way at least theyre BOTH copper, both the 9 heat range

P.S. whatever gap the "race" plugs are set it, make sure u set the NGK at the same gap.

in addition:
the BKr6eIX-11 is pre-gapped to .044 so hopefully thats been addressed. that kind of gap, + that heat range had no business in a setup making that kind of power smh

 

champion makes a trick f1 spark plug

 

if gains from colder plugs were the case, we'd all be running 10-11 heat range

 

There's too many variables in your test for it to be considered accurate.


Who is this "Rocket"? What does he want from us?!?!

 

the test is accurate

the dynojet varies less than 1hp on this motor on runs where there are no changes are made

 

here are back to back runs--no changes other than a bottle of octane boost

 

What is this a "hint" to? Who asked about F1 cars?

 

No one, although I would care to know about F1. But based on the sources others have provided on this thread, I don't buy that BS

 

I love coming in and reading threads with people who have join dates from years ago.. Glad to still have all of you around!

P.S. - I'm not buying into it either

 

the point is that there are plugs that make more power than NGK

 

Maybe so, but this test don't show it. Try testing an NGK copper against this, and you still haven't specified if the gaps are the same. I guess we wouldn't really know either way

 

This is a test of an engine running spark plug A v. spark plug B

A happens to be NGK

B happens to be a limited distribution race plug used by elite motorsport teams

 

BKR6EIX-11 were run at factory gap of 0.044

race plugs run its preset gap

engine runs MSD-6AL with HCV (high current and voltage) coil

magnecore 8.5mm plug wires via MSD cap and rotor with OE OBDII distributor

 

I didn't see anyone refute that though.

NGK's are cheap, readily available, work well, and are recommended by Honda.

If we're gonna start nit-picking spark plugs and "power increases," I think you would receive more interest, Rocket, if you did a budget plug vs. a budget plug in a 160-190hp engine. And that is still a big maybe.

2-3 hp "gained" isn't gonna make a bunch of noise...

 

obviously, theres such a thing as too hot, and too cold. this setup is making roughly 250whp. (hardly stock) last i heard, 6's were used in stock GSRs. i use 8's , and thats performed better than the 7's in my 12.5:1 compression setup.

well yea, but WHICH NGKs?

true. if u had said this test is an engine running A. which is not just NGK , but NGK BKR6EIX-11, id be totally fine with it.

this is like saying " a 2L high compression setup gained 10hp+ when switching to a HKS hi-power muffler (straight through) from an Apexi World sport muffler (chambered) .. HKS is better than Apexi. " No, its NOT ! .. its saying a straight through muffler gained 10hp over a chambered.

exactly. u ran the NGK's at a stock GSR gap, which is not the same gap as the race plug gaps. i believe gapping is part of the process for a control test, and for every race out there, no? i know i lost HP when i opened up my gap to .038" .... guess what my gaps at??

all jokes aside, not attacking you. just cant believe you think this was a valid test to even come close to making a generalized statements that there are better plugs than NGK out there. there might be, but your test definitely didnt prove it.

 

please.

I used to run a 224x 5-6 times a week for almost 3 years at a previous shop.

You can absolutely:

1. Add fans in the front of the grille for a run
2. Inflate/deflate tire pressure
3. Run a harder/softer tire
4. Use a different correction setup
5. Close the shop doors and run the A/C
etc

Dynos are like flow benches . . . great for comparing back to back results on the same machine but suspect to all kinds of shenanigans when comparing online.

EDIT: Why did you change the smoothing settings between the two graphs?

 

With high power MSD6AL and the HCV coil, 0.044 gap on the NGK works fine, no high rpm misfire. If it misfired, we would have obviously reduced the gap.

The car is used for 1/4 mile and général pleasure driving. If he was a road racer, I'd recommend an 8 heat range.

What plugs do you guys think is best for this app and what gap.

 

Obviously the correction factor applied to the runs are the same.

Never touch the tires; how would that look with the owner of the car. The right front tire is out of round; that's why the graph is choppy up top--like what you feel on the freeway with out of round tires.

Fan is always on during the dyno session.

The dyno is in Van Nuys, CA you guys are welcome to come by to witness the next test

 

See this is the problem your comparing a 6 vs. 9 that alone is a major variable. How about 7 or 8 which is what most race teams in honda's are running. Try to do the test with this plug and then go from there.