I got a usdm b18c5 and looking to upgrade to tuner 2 cams. Would these be ok for the stock 10.6:1 cr or would something smaller like buddy club spec3+ cams be more ideal? Car is mainly a street car. Only mods are the basic bolt one. Toda rep header, greddy evo2 cat back and 3 inch sri with aem dry flow filter

 

It'd stick with the Buddy Club Spec 3+ for that type of build. Mainly a street warrior with that type of compression would do best in the midrange that you're looking for.

I loved the GReddy Evo2 Exhaust. one of the best performing and sounding exhausts around. unfortunately, after 7 years, the resonator is a bit blown out, so I'm creating a different exhaust for a similar build. I think you'll like it those cams for your purpose.

 

I loved the evo2 sound but same here I have had mine for 7 years as well and time has taken its toll. Doesn't help I have a small hole in the resonator. Wanted to try out the sp2 but its no longer available so I found a sp2 rep muffler made by tsudo I got from speed element that Ima try out on a extra axle back pipe I have. I was leaning towards the BC cams for the midrange. Not t looking for a street monster just a fun lil car.

 

Tuner 2s will make more peak power, but the BC3+ will be faster on the street.

I'd use the Buddy Clubs

 

what is your goal

 

 

Goal is to have a fun lil street car with usable power band. Not interested in having a all out monster. Drivability and reliability. I don't drive it everyday anymore but when I do I like just getting in and turn key n go. No tweaking things.

 

I would have just swapped resonators and kept everything else

 

Well I do still need to do something with the resonator as far as the hole goes. Either weld it or replace it

Also would rdx injectors be ok to use after cam install

 

They'd be great, if you're aware of all the work that goes into running them as in injector hats, manifold modification, tuning etc

 

what springs and retainers are you going to use?

 

^^^X2.
OP hasn't mentioned it, not sure he's aware he will need upgraded valvetrain

 

Rocket Motorsports M22KE cams with Rocket SL springs

good to 11,000 rpms

 

11,000 rpms. Usable powerband. Street car. Hahahaha

 

the motor won't make power there but good to know it can handle in case of mechanical over-rev (e.g. mis-shifting into 2nd gear when going from 3rd to 4th)

 

I was under the impression the stock itr valve train would handle the spec 3+ cams as long as I stayed with in the stock rev range which on a c5 is 8400 or 8500. My s100 has just a base map itr map with rev limit at 8500 and from what I have read the buddy clubs start to fall in power round 8-8500. But I would mostly likely go with buddy club springs and itr retainers

 

The Buddy Club Springs and retainers do quite well. I even use those on one of my TODA RACING builds. you're fine getting those over even Supertech or others.

Best to match when you can.

 

I bought these for my ITR, waiting to see how much will improve!

 

it would be a bit sketchy to run the bc3+ on itr valvetrain. its just a few hundred more bucks and terrific peace of mind. i think the only cam id really run on itr valvetrain besides itrs are tuner1's . id believe you have to look more at the lift of the cam to see what kind of spring you need.

what about the rsx-s oe retainers do you guys recommend them for this type of build to keep costs lower

 

Cams that run to 11,000 rpm are designed to make power there and are not for the street. Try running those rocket springs all the time at street rpms...

 

When Buddy Club was asked specifically if you can run BC3+ cams on ITR valvetrain, here was their response:


Take that for what you will.

 

I am beginning to think that I've had the wrong impression about Buddy Club for a looong time now.

Rocket brain washed me as a dealer, but I've seen comments here and there over time and it's made me think that they actually aren't as bad as Robert made them out to be.

I think he felt threatened by the BC4 cam. He told me that those were a Toda B primary with Jun3 vtec. Has anyone else heard this rumor?

 

I do like for everything to match if possible for warranty issues. I see password jdm has head package that comes with the cams v/t and gears for 950. Guess while I'm at it get their head gasket for alight bump in compression or should just stick to oem hg?

 

I don't think a thinner head gasket would hurt, but then again, I don't know how aggressive those cams are. But it doesn't sound like they're too aggressive. I think your only concern would be P2V clearance, but if its a street cam, you shouldn't have any trouble at all

 

In the 90's, I hear BuddyClub used to be the shiz. That was when it was still actually JDM. It has since been sold to some Taiwanese company that has now owned it for years. I don't know that any of the product designs (like cams) from back then have changed, although being made in Taiwan certainly gives the impression that they are lower quality now.
I don't think Buddy Club was ever a knockoff company, I mean they used to be heavily involved in japanese racing circuits. I mean, they designed one of the most popular body kits of all time! I don't imagine that their cam was a spinoff, but who would really know unless they measured