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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 07:26 PM
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I'm in need of some assistance identifying what could cause the condenser fan to not spin at full speed.

Things I have done.
  • Tested another working condenser fan relay from another car
  • Tried different fan on the same car with same result. Does not spin at full speed
  • Tested my fan on other car and it spin at full speed

The fan run at full speed if I hook the fan directly to the battery. Any idea on what could cause this?

This is on a 2000 Civic EX
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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Check voltage?
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Old Jun 18, 2014 | 07:40 PM
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Check voltage?
This^

...and also test the ground wire.

The fan should receive approximately battery voltage.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 04:34 PM
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Here's the result after measuring voltage (have not work on electrical for a long time - might need more guidance)...

I measured the condenser fan connector with the key set to on (engine not running). I get between 59-61 ohms @ 200k. Voltage measured between 11.8-12.1

I decided to test the condenser fan relay 4P socket. Measured from No.2 terminal and ground, I get 0 reading. But if I jump No.2 and No.1 terminal the fan spin just not at full speed. Service manual indicated to replace the under hood fuse/relay but it works when I jumped the terminals.

Another thing to consider... the fan spin at full speed if I connect directly with battery. I have also tested another fan and same problem so fan motor is out of the question.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 06:45 PM
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The fan connector gets battery voltage, so the next test is for ground at the black wire.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 06:48 PM
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the black wire coming from the fan connector to the body? and how do I test the ground? thanks


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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 06:53 PM
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The test is continuity to body ground.

Post a picture of your multimeter.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:18 PM
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The meter probes are installed correctly for the test.

Dial the multimeter to the 200 Ohm scale (bottom most setting).

Touch one meter probe to the black wire terminal in the fan connector and the other meter probe to the negative (-) battery post. Post a picture of the Ohm reading.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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tested while the engine is off. between .2 and .3
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:28 PM
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How did you do the voltage test? What was the multimeter set on?
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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It was set on DCV @ 200 and getting 11.8-12.1. I connected to the connector while the key is set to on.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:30 PM
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Redo the test with the multimeter set at DCV 20. How exactly did you do the voltage test? Specifically, what did you touch the meter probes to?
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:32 PM
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sorry forgot to mention that I turn on both AC and Fan controller and set key to on (engine is off). will retest.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:33 PM
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Good. But what did you touch the meter probes to?
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:37 PM
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retested and same process, key is on both ac and fan on, connected to the female connector (white and black). I push it in there (check to make sure it makes good connection). The result this time is between 11.6-11.9 @ 20 DCV as suggested.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:43 PM
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What voltage do you measure between the two battery posts?

What voltage do you read at the white wire terminal if you use the (-) battery post as ground?

Post pictures of the terminals of the male and female fan connectors.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:49 PM
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same process, key on ac/fan is on, tested battery (-) and (+) and getting 12.04-12.05. Connected to white wire and (-) on battery as ground and getting 11.91 both are at DCV 20.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:52 PM
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Your battery is a low on charge.

The tests say that the fan connector has good voltage and ground. Therefore, there may be a bad connection between the terminals of the male and female plugs.

Post pictures of the terminals of the male and female fan connectors.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:55 PM
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with that in mind, i would say it's the female connector that is bad. I tried another fan with the same female connector and it spin at low speed.

When i connected my fan with another female connector on another car my fan spin at full speed.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CivicDudeEx
with that in mind, i would say it's the female connector that is bad. I tried another fan with the same female connector and it spin at low speed.

When i connected my fan with another female connector on another car my fan spin at full speed.
I agree.
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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 08:02 PM
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it's dark but here are pictures. I will be picking up another female connector and report back.


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Old Jun 19, 2014 | 10:49 PM
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Update:

I would like to say thank you for your help RonJ@HT!!! you are awesome!!!

I gave my wife two options.. 1. Bypass the connector and she'll get a working AC or 2. wait until this weekend and I'll get new connectors... Well due to the heat here in NorCal... she went with option 1. It's confirmed to be working wonderfully!!!!!!!
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 05:23 AM
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 10:07 AM
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I enjoyed following this thread, RonJ@HT was very thorough.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 12:35 PM
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This is how a tech post should be. As long as we have accurate info we can help. We don't like doing great guessing games.
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