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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 08:55 AM
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Hey guys, Just rounding up all the pieces to swap an auto to manual in my daily EX sedan.

I know there are tons of threads on how to, I got that. Just one question:

Everyone is saying you need a conversion mount, Im assuming their talking about the one on top of the tranny? If so, why is a special mount required? Can you not just use the OEM mount that would've come on the manual tranny? Can someone whos been through this explain for me? Is the body of the car different that the oem manual mount wont work or what?
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 09:34 AM
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I have not done this but I have read about it before on here.

On the 92-95 civics the trans mount that is welded into the car is different between manuals and autos, thus the need for the special mount. You could also remove the mount and weld in one from a manual and avoid the special mount
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by grand champ
I know there are tons of threads on how to, I got that.
Then read a couple and get the answer to your question. Especially since no one knows what engines you're working with.
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 10:03 AM
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Then read a couple and get the answer to your question. Especially since no one knows what engines you're working with.
Thanks for being a dick, especially after someone was nice enough to give me the exact answer I was looking for.

Engine type is not part of the equation first of all, and like I said, I have read the threads, they all say, "You need a conversion mount" and do not specify why.

Now that I know that the actual car body has a different mount welded to it, I can decide how I want to approach the swap.

Thanks to the first guy who answered my question!
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 10:13 AM
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I'm pretty damn sure they don't just say a conversion mount is required and leave it at that. As a matter of fact I'm willing to bet a paycheck on it. Especially with as many of these things that have been done and written up. Why is a special mount required? because you're converting from auto to manual. That pretty much tells me that regular mounts don't work.

And, as you might have forgotten ALL pertinent information needs to be listed in the first thread as per forum RULES.
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 10:17 AM
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Next time, PLEASE don't come in and say that none of the threads give an explanation why.
Originally Posted by diversity210
Motor mounts
Civic auto to manual motor mount
Manual front lower torque mounts


Note:
The automatic mount is different from the manual and that’s why you need the conversion mount. You can try and fabricate your own mount, but its much easier and a lot less frustrating to just purchase the conversion mount. Avid, Hasport, and Innovative are the big name companies that make this mount. Expect to pay about 120 for those. There are mounts on eBay that sell for like 60 which is what I used and worked great. Do your research and don’t just order from anyone on eBay. For the cheaper mounts go into the sellers feedback and email all the people that purchased the mount and ask them how it worked for them before you buy
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 10:22 AM
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And another.
Originally Posted by 94EG8
Auto and manual '92 - '95 D-series T brackets are the same. The rear mount itself is different, it bolts up the same, but the automatic version is significantly weaker.
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ejoner
You will need the auto to manual conversion mount unless you wanna weld
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 11:20 AM
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Jesus Christ, NONE OF THEM EXPLAIN WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS!!!!

Just says, different from auto to manual, I ******* understand that! Like I said in the OP, I want to know what the difference is.

And once again, engine type is NOT pertinent information!!!
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 11:24 AM
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If you cannot tell that one is for auto and one is for manual I don't know what to tell you. But I guess they manufacture these things and people have been buying them just because. You said they didn't explain why, and I showed you why. Not that it was really needed to complete the swap unless you wanted to know if you HAD to get one or not.

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why is a special mount required?
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 11:34 AM
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K, dude. Pretty sure your not understanding the actual question. Its pretty obvious that a manual mount is different from an auto mount. I understand this. What I was asking is if i'm using a manual transmission, why can I not just use the OEM manual mount? Like every other manual EG out there.

As the other guy answered above, the actual car body is different between a manual car and an auto car as to where the bracket that accepts the mount is placed on the body.

Tell me where any of the guides explained this?
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 11:37 AM
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I know what the question was. I quoted it.

Why is knowing that fact even relevant? They tell you what you need to do the swap and you need to know why? I don't need to know how a watch runs to tell time. You find a complete working guide and follow it. Maybe when you're actually doing the swap you'll see why everyone keeps saying you need it.

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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 11:46 AM
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**** your an idiot, you seriously don't have anything better to do than pick apart someones question? Its something I wanted to know, so I asked. If its not relevant to you then STFU and never mind. It is relevant to me and what i'm doing.

I am a fabricator, therefore, to save some cash on doing the swap I asked what the difference is in hopes of A) creating my own mount, or B) Moving the mount attached to the body to accept the normal manual mount.

Oh, and FYI:
"A clear cloudless day-time sky is blue because molecules in the air scatter blue light from the sun more than they scatter red light. When we look towards the sun at sunset, we see red and orange colors because the blue light has been scattered out and away from the line of sight."
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 11:48 AM
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**** your an idiot, you seriously don't have anything better to do than pick apart someones question?
Nope. I'm on vacation and it's raining outside. So the sky isn't blue.
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 11:52 AM
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Well if your board you should watch some **** and them ********** into a kleenex, Less risk of you re-producing.
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 11:52 AM
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Personal attacks. Juvenile. Obviously too much GDD.
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 11:57 AM
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Thanks to egsleepercivic for answering my question 100%, and not turning it into a big **** show! Props to you man!
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 12:00 PM
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100% props to Google for telling me the answer without having to start a thread!
Originally Posted by Nickeg9Ej1
you need the auto to manual mount because on manuals the mounting point on the car is level with the frame rails and on autos the mounting point is angled up about 2 inches fit fit the larger transmission...... Ive done this swap 2 times in the last year, once i drilled and welded the mounting point, the other i used innovative auto to manual mount. I would just spend the extra money on the mount if you have it or cant weld
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Noone likes you marc. Being helpful is cool, but being a dick isn't. Stop being mean to people bro, unless you wanna fight about it
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 12:12 PM
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Hey look, you brought some useful information into the thread! Thanks, That actually helps me out even more, Now I know what the legit difference is and can plan to drill/weld plate rather that buy a mount!
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 12:22 PM
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Don't thank me. Thank Google.
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 03:57 PM
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The bracket welded to frame rail is different, I used to just drill the welds out and weld on the manual version.
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by grand champ
Thanks to egsleepercivic for answering my question 100%, and not turning it into a big **** show! Props to you man!
Unfortunately you had a larger part to play in turning it into the so called "**** show".

grumblemarc started with a very valid point. In your post you said there are a crapload of threads but you didn't indicate you actually read them. You then proceeded to verbally attack him for pointing out that detail.

He then proceeded to do Google searches and provide you the threads and information that you still avoided while you continued to attack him verbally and twist your question around to fit your needs.

With Google he managed to hand you the information you could have found yourself being you were after very specific particulars.

And lastly, all threads in this tech forum require all car information including what motor whether the question at hand is engine model specific or not.

Sadly, your conduct was far more "dickish" then his.

I'm glad you finally received the information you were looking for but please try to conduct yourself in a more professional manner in the future regardless of what manner you feel others have presented to you.

Thank you.
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 05:30 PM
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The bracket is different, it wont sit level with a 5spd trans and the auto mounts.

You "don't" need the auto to manual mount, but you would have to drill the old bracket off, and weld the new 5spd bracket on. Overall it's easier to just get the damn mount.
Old Jun 11, 2014 | 05:41 PM
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Is your time worthless? Do you have a welder or know someone who does, that owes you a favor?

if you answered no to either of these questions, buy the mount.

if you're like me and your time is worthless, and you have a welder, and you're any good with it, try to fab it up.



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