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Old May 11, 2014 | 06:54 PM
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Default 94 civic 4 door no spark no fuel

Alright I'll do my best to list off what I have done just as much as I have tried to search and source out this problem

94 civic
-lsV was pulled and running
-new distributor
- new ecu with chip (tested in my daily del sol)
- tested main relay in daily along with used the current working one in my daily
- all the fuses check out to be working
- cranks but no FP or spark (but power at dizzy)
-power at dizzy
-brand new rywire engine harness
-fuel pump is an inline walbro fuel pump (stand alone power and ground setup)
-stock fuel pump ground is grounded
-triple checked all my grounds and connectors for my ground(all brand new)

Does the stock fuel pump power wire need to see a signal?
And I missing some sort of ground in order for my setup to work properly?

I have tried multiple things that I have read with forums and I can't seem to find the culprit. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks h-t
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Old May 12, 2014 | 06:41 AM
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Any takers or ideas welcome please!!
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Old May 12, 2014 | 08:56 AM
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Default Re: 94 civic 4 door no spark no fuel

This may have gotten better response in the 92-00 civic/del sol forum.

I don't have the power to move the thread there, maybe another mod will be kind enough.
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Old May 12, 2014 | 10:39 AM
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I'd appreciate that, wasn't to sure of placement
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Old May 13, 2014 | 09:09 AM
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Anyone?! Please
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Old May 14, 2014 | 08:30 AM
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Default Re: 94 civic 4 door no spark no fuel

Update: found no power at the fuel pump power suply wire..
Going to attempt to address this problem after work
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Old May 15, 2014 | 12:51 PM
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Default Re: 94 civic 4 door no spark no fuel

Jumped #1 & #7 on main relay pump stays running
Jumped #5 & #7 on main relay dizzy and iac clicked

Any suggestions?
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Old May 15, 2014 | 01:18 PM
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Jumped #5 & #7 on main relay dizzy and iac clicked
Pump doesn't run on this^ test? If so, voltage test 15A fuse 24. Click the Test Fuses link in my signature.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 01:24 PM
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Correct on test 5&7 no pump power
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Old May 15, 2014 | 01:26 PM
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That's the problem.

Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
...voltage test 15A fuse 24. Click the Test Fuses link in my signature.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 01:29 PM
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12.8 V. On fuse 24
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Old May 15, 2014 | 01:32 PM
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12.8 V. On fuse 24
Both tabs?
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Old May 15, 2014 | 01:43 PM
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Correct both tabs
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Old May 15, 2014 | 01:47 PM
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Convince me you know the location of fuse 24.

In the meantime, do this test:

Turn key to ON(II).

Unplug main relay.

Measure voltage to body ground at terminal 5 (Blk/Yel wire) in the unplugged connector.

What is the reading?
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Old May 15, 2014 | 02:02 PM
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16V. it's on the charger at moment so I'd assume that being the high reading
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Old May 15, 2014 | 02:06 PM
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Your collective tests don't make sense. If terminal 5 has voltage, then the 5 to 7 jump test SHOULD make the pump run.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 02:07 PM
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Default Re: 94 civic 4 door no spark no fuel

Hey on(ll) for the 5&7 test?
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Old May 15, 2014 | 02:09 PM
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YES
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Old May 15, 2014 | 02:18 PM
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Now it's just dead no click, no power to fuel pump
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Old May 15, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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Sorry fuse popped accidentally grounded power.
There's a clicking noise in the bay and the cel flashes when I jump 5&7
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Old May 15, 2014 | 03:24 PM
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Jump 1 to 7. What happens?
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Old May 15, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Default Re: 94 civic 4 door no spark no fuel

Fuel pump runs when 1&7 are jumped
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1&7 jumped fuel pump turns on is good, 5&7 jump with the ignition switch on (II) the fuel pump should be on also assuming there is voltage coming in at pin 5 on the main relay connector. if you do NOt have power on pin 5 at the main relay connector then you have a short somewhere or a bad/wrong ignition switch on it. Without pin 5 not triggering your fuel pump on when 5&7 jump then it would not trigger your ecu to turn on, when the ecu is not on then you wont get any spark and fuel pump signal.

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Old May 16, 2014 | 05:04 PM
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Post clear pictures showing you measuring voltage at pin 5 in the main relay plug.
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Old May 16, 2014 | 05:22 PM
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