Have a question for the community. I ordered some supposed Japanese domestic fenders for my 00 civic from ebay that were sold by a reputable company that imports parts from Japan. When I received them, I could automatically tell they are taiwan quality due to the light weight and their ability to bend easily. I have to prove to the company that they're fake in order to receive a refund. What information or giveaways can I use to determine their authenticity?

 

And not one picture or mention of any markings/part numbers to be had. I wonder how people are supposed to do answer your question sight unseen.

 

You sure you didn't buy JDM style fenders? They usually come with Stanley sidemarkers,

 

My apologies for not providing adequate info. I did message the company before buying them asking if they were real, oem fenders imported from Japan and they assured me they were. I've been going to a few knowledgeable people and they also have told me they're fake. The side markers are Stanely and the thin side moldings are from Honda, but the fenders themselves are made of very flimsy metal and have no markings that indicate and type of oem origin.

 

I'm debating about taking micrometer measurements of the metal thickness compared to some oem fenders. Do All oem USDM and JDM fenders have a stamp on them?

 

LMFAO bro... bro you're jay de em as fukk even more so then someone who converts their car to RHD. What it comes down to is WHAT did you pay for them if you got ripped of or not, those things aren't worth more then 30$ a go in that shpe.

 

Dings and scratches are one thing, but attempting to fix the large creases across the flat planes of the fender (passenger side) is basically impossible.

Regardless of their authenticity, those look like scrap metal to me.

 

They look real to me

 

look for stamping on the top of the fenders, where they bolt to the car. if you find anything, take a close up pic and post it.

 

They usually have the Honda tag "HON" on them if they were. Truthfully, it wasn't worth it for used jdm parts if it was gonna arrive looking like that.

 

It's a civic not a 56 caddy the stock fenders are also flimsey when not bolted on the car . Op I would be more upset about the horrible condition then whether or not they where real .

 

I figured I wouldn't bring too much to the table but yes when I called their company I was very enraged on the way the fenders were packaged and the state they came in which is pretty much non salvage-able. I can't get them on the shipping condition too much other than the way they were packaged, but I can definitely get them on authenticity. The fender in the picture is AFTER I bent it back to shape with my bare hands. It's downright shameful. No stamps or imprints or stickers other than a scratched out tag in the middle there which is probably a barcode from the Taiwan company. I'll upload a few more pictures a little later.

 

Dont buy crap from crap companys?

also, what drove you to buy JDM fenders? Why couldn't you go to a junk yard?

 

I think you're better off getting them from passwordjdm with the sidemarkers.

 

Judging from the amount of good reviews on Ebay and the fact that I've heard about the company from other people on various forums, I felt relatively safe about purchasing the fenders from them. I paid $250. Finding these fenders is a hard feat and I'm pretty set on having oem quality. I like the look of the side markers and respect the car enough to provide it with authenticity. I understand most of you feel as though that amount could be used wiser, and I respect that, but that's where I wanted to invest my money. Unfortunately I have to get the money back, which brings me to my original topic. I've heard about authenticity stickers stamped with honda emblems, but are there any stamps or inscriptions on the fenders themselves? I will be looking at a USDM pair tomorrow and comparing them. Also, the PW JDM fenders were an option, but I've read about people having fitment issues.

 

You could have just bought oem side markers, used a template, measure once, measure again, measure again, measure AGAIN, and cut a hole in your OEM fenders with a dremel. Wire em up, stick em in, done. Even if you got some used fenders from a junkyard, you wouldn't be out more than about $80, or if you wanted fenders only less than $40, and this whole headache could have been avoided.

 

I feel ya op, about being beat for your money by some jerk company.

happens to me more than I like it to. Good luck man, remember to always read fine print and ask for something written that says the product will be in good condition.

and also please stop drooling over Japanese stuff. I really want these ****** headlights, but I'm not about to spend 2,000$ for nicer headlights. Even if I had a hole burning in my pocket I wouldn't buy these lol

 

There definitely not jdm or usdm the original oem fender, panel, ect ect, material is of a Grey color not black, and there is no marking to identify it as well, at least not for the 92-95 civic can't say for the newer civic beyond that, but as grumblemarc said are you sure you didn't purchase jdm style fender. Post up the ebay links of the fender maybe we can help identify some things for you!

 

I appreciate the sentiment guys. I may end up either cutting or having someone cut (because I can't trust my precision skills just quite yet) some marker cutouts into some usdm fenders.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281318698346...84.m1439.l2649

Those are what I bought if the link works. I will also state again that I specifically asked if they were legit jdm fenders. I still have the sent and received messages.

 

Just throwing this out there, what if someone had repaced the original fenders from the car in japan with cheap replacements before the importer got ahold of the car....could be the importer just took them off the car thinking they were original oem ones when they might not have been

 

I was just discussing that with my wife. But I think they would know that they were not oem and would have included that in the description before selling them. I have a feeling they just expected the buyer not to know.

 

I was thinking the exact same thing!

To op still those are not oem, jdm, or usdm fender at all as I specify earlier the material use to make the fender and panel is of a Grey color. As for getting your money back i think it bad on your end, as it already stated on the posting "actual item what you see is what you get". But you never know untill you try! I just don't see why you would want to pay that much for when you can see damage on the fender from the picture provided.


This here is an actual oem jdm ek fender notice the material inside is grey.

And this here is an actual jdm ek fender that being sold on ebay, a little pricier because of shipping but still I wouldn't pay that much versus a fender at the junk yard for 30.
http://m.ebay.com/itm/400694090401?nav=SEARCH

 

JDM fenders. Ha! In Japan they just call them fenders.
I know this question has been asked before but I don't ever recall people outside of the US willing to pay hundreds of dollars for USDM parts do you? Even if they did, it's kinda silly.

 

Do you spend much time outside the US? It doesnt really sound like you do.

There actually are very large groups of USDM car enthusiasts overseas in Europe and Asia in several markets, Japan being one of the largest. USDM cars and parts have been being shipped in that direction for years.

 

Key words being "I don't recall". Not that it really matters where the "craze" is, it is a stupid one. A fender is a fender and at the end of the day paying hundreds for one isn't really smart. Just my opinion mind you.

And here's another thing I don't understand. If you're really a JDM enthusiast then you should be highly familiar with what you're buying considering the amount of money you're willing to drop on parts. NOT knowing or being able to recognize fake parts from legit, if you're a real enthusiast, is inexcusable. Now if you're just a poser wanting to claim JDM and know nothing about your hobby then you get what you deserve.