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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 01:56 PM
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My car: 96' civic hatchback with b18b1 swap

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When I got the swap, the original crank pulley was damaged to crap, so I decided to get a lightweight VMS Crank Pulley for $90. When I got the car running, i flipped on my air conditioning and while under load their is a loud shrEEEEEEKing noise coming from under the hood. I know it's the AC because as soon as I turn it off, the noise goes away.

I checked my belt for tension, and it seems to be alright (I can twist it 90 degrees), and I also cannot tighten it anymore than it already is.

Could my light weight crankshaft pulley be throwing off the weight proportion for the AC belt? My alternator seems to be running fine.

Any input is appreciated, thanks.


Heres a pic of the pulley:


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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 05:33 PM
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Default Re: AC Squeals - Light Weight Crank Pulley?

Probably not crank pulley related and more likely your A/C Compressor clutch is making the noise.
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Old Apr 29, 2014 | 08:35 PM
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Default Re: AC Squeals - Light Weight Crank Pulley?

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Probably not crank pulley related and more likely your A/C Compressor clutch is making the noise.
yeah i think it's probably this, specifically it could be the ac compressor clutch bearing
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 02:49 AM
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Is it the correct belt?
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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Default Re: AC Squeals - Light Weight Crank Pulley?

How much less does the crank pully weigh than the original one?
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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How much less does the crank pully weigh than the original one?
What would this matter?
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 10:31 AM
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What would this matter?
noone asked you grumpy crazy cat dude
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 11:31 AM
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Default Re: AC Squeals - Light Weight Crank Pulley?

I'm asking. What does the weight of the crank pulley have to do with anything?
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Originally Posted by slomofo
Probably not crank pulley related and more likely your A/C Compressor clutch is making the noise.
But my A/C compressor was working just fine on my d16y7 motor. I just realized that when I ordered my 97-00 CRV AC bracket, it did not come with an idler pulley so i used the one off of the Y7 bracket. I guess I'm using the wrong pulley now?

I am using the correct belt, ordered from RockAuto. Also, the lightweight pulley is the exact size of the OEM pulley and is made of Billet Aluminum weighing 1 pound 15 ounces.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 02:55 PM
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Default Re: AC Squeals - Light Weight Crank Pulley?

Stick your head under the hood with the car and A/C running and VERIFY where the squealing is coming from and stop speculating. More than likely it's the compressor clutch. Did you check for proper tensioning of the belt?
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Default Re: AC Squeals - Light Weight Crank Pulley?

But my A/C was running perfectly with my y7 in the car, so how could it be the compressor? In the OP I stated that I could twist the belt 90 degrees, which i was told was correct tension.

I'll go check it out again soon.
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Old Apr 30, 2014 | 08:43 PM
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Default Re: AC Squeals - Light Weight Crank Pulley?

Here are some videos:

Checking the tension:
https://vimeo.com/93447533

Hearing the noise at Idle:
https://vimeo.com/93450215

Another bit of info, when the A/C is on and the compressor stops spinning/condenser fan turns off for a bit, the sound goes away. Is this an obvious sign that it is my A/C compressor bearing?

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That or the bearing in your tensioner. If you can get a long screw driver (or mechanics stethoscope, can be had pretty cheap at harbor freight) and put the handle to your ear and put it on the bearing at the tensioner and then at your compressor you should be able to pin point it pretty easily.
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That or the bearing in your tensioner. If you can get a long screw driver (or mechanics stethoscope, can be had pretty cheap at harbor freight) and put the handle to your ear and put it on the bearing at the tensioner and then at your compressor you should be able to pin point it pretty easily.
Does my tension look alright? I'll try that trick to pin point it, I honestly am having a hard time believing that it's my A/C Compressor bearing because it was working flawlessly in my car before the swap.

I'll post results tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by PrettyMuchBoned
noone asked you grumpy crazy cat dude who TOTALLY knows WTF he's talking about 99.9% of the time
FTFY n00b

Originally Posted by FeelTheBass
... I honestly am having a hard time believing that it's my A/C Compressor bearing because it was working flawlessly in my car before the swap.
How long did it sit between working perfectly and the swap? In what conditions was it kept?


Sitting is HORRIBLE for stuff. Sitting outside is even worse.
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Old May 1, 2014 | 12:41 PM
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Default Re: AC Squeals - Light Weight Crank Pulley?

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How long did it sit between working perfectly and the swap? In what conditions was it kept?

Sitting is HORRIBLE for stuff. Sitting outside is even worse.
When I pulled out my y7 I took it off and put it on my b18b1, the b18b1 sat for a few days in the garage before I swapped it in. What effect would this have on it?
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Default Re: AC Squeals - Light Weight Crank Pulley?

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When I pulled out my y7 I took it off and put it on my b18b1, the b18b1 sat for a few days in the garage before I swapped it in. What effect would this have on it?
it wouldn't. Maybe if it wasn't handled with care, but an AC compressor sitting for a few days, few weeks, wont hurt it. I doubt sitting for a month or more would even hurt it. Years, maybe it would..
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Default Re: AC Squeals - Light Weight Crank Pulley?

a) the belt is too loose.

b) check the bearing in the tensioner. remove the belt and inspect.
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Originally Posted by HondaPartsHero
That or the bearing in your tensioner. If you can get a long screw driver (or mechanics stethoscope, can be had pretty cheap at harbor freight) and put the handle to your ear and put it on the bearing at the tensioner and then at your compressor you should be able to pin point it pretty easily.
You can use pretty much anything that's long and you can put your ear up to. I used a ski pole once.
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Old May 2, 2014 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PrettyMuchBoned
it wouldn't. Maybe if it wasn't handled with care, but an AC compressor sitting for a few days, few weeks, wont hurt it. I doubt sitting for a month or more would even hurt it. Years, maybe it would..
Alright, I figured. I'm going to remove the belt once I get my car back from the shop, getting my Avital 5303L alarm intstalled

I'll perform the long screw driver trick before removing the belt to see if I can pin point it.
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Old May 4, 2014 | 08:18 PM
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Saw this today and interested me into thinking it could be the A/C compressor bearing, when I open the throttle high enough, the A/C compressor "skips". Check out the video

Skip to 0:16 if you don't want to wait
https://vimeo.com/93937006

Tried the screw driver trick, and also used a breaker bar and couldn't really pin point it because the A/C compressor and Idler pulley are so close.
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Old May 4, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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Isn't that pully about 20$? Might as well change it for the lulz if nothing else
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Isn't that pully about 20$? Might as well change it for the lulz if nothing else
$34.92 from Majestic. I would be down except shipping and handling is $293842903840293842 from them, i'll hit up O'Reilly.
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$34.92 from Majestic. I would be down except shipping and handling is $293842903840293842 from them, i'll hit up O'Reilly.
yeah dude, I meant aftermarket. I think that's what rock auto wanted for generic, I think doordude.

seriously OP. What do your crank pullys weigh in at?
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yeah dude, I meant aftermarket. I think that's what rock auto wanted for generic, I think doordude.

seriously OP. What do your crank pullys weigh in at?
Ooo I'll hit up RockAuto then, i bought a ton of **** from them when i was semi-rebuilding my motor.

My VMS pulley weighs 1 pound 15 ounces.
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