Trying to get replacement front springs for my hatch as cheap as possible, and of course in the US you can't get just plain old REPLACEMENT springs for the front Moog makes a set for the rear, but not the front. However, Moog DOES make a replacement set for the front on 86-89 Accords and 92-95 Civics. I know the EG's will make my ride all 4x4, but haven't heard anything about the Accords. I checked the specs (sizes) and they seem to be perfect......so has anyone ever tried this before?

And please don't ask/say 'why don't you just get a set of lowering springs'......because I don't WANT to lower my car and I don't LIKE the way they look, not to mention I have the B16 swap and my header sits low enough as it is and Colorado roads aren't exactly ideal for a lowered car.

Thanks in advance for any help!!!

 

Well I just found a set of the Moog CC248's for the Accord on eBay for ~$36 SHIPPED......so I figured for that cheap I'll just go ahead and be the guinea pig and see if they work or not Wish me luck

Cheers

 

I appreciate the mentality, too many people aren't willing to go out and try stuff for themselves. Be sure to post up the results.

And good luck!

 

I'm curious about this as well.


Let us know what you find out.

 

Bummer, I was going to say ill sell you my OE set for about the price. But intrested to see how they work also.

 

Well I got the springs yesterday and as you can see from just setting the springs on my strut, it looks like they're going to work !!! Another reason I'm optimistic is because these springs have the EXACT same uncompressed length (327mm) as the KYB European K-Flex replacement springs......so FINGERS CROSSED!!!! I'll keep you posted and take some before pics, some actual spring comparison pics, and after pics once I get around to swapping them.

 

NICE!

 

Well.....after all that time having my buddy swap em out I get the same results as other hybrids.....BAJA MOBILE!!!! While the springs LOOK almost identical (accord springs have 1 more coil), they just don't compress enough......so back to the drawing board I guess!

 

LOL Sorry it didn't work out, but it's actually kinda cool if there's someone out there looking to add some height. There are people who do that kind of thing so I'm sure this'll help them to an extent.

 

thanks for sharing. this may be useful for others.

i would have expected more coils to be more droopy (the physics say so), but it looks like the wire thickness is visually greater on the accord front spring.

do you have a set of calipers to measure the wire diameter?

 

Might just be the pic, but does the Accord spring have 1 extra turn or is it just me counting poorly?

 

No, you're counting correctly.....the accord springs have 1 extra coil in them. Moog actually makes 2 different replacement springs for the front on the accords/preludes.....I purchased the CC248 (because they were only $37), and the other set is CC246. The only difference that I've been able to discern between the 2 is that one (CC248) is for models with AC, is rated at 1100 pounds, and has an installed height of 9". While the other (CC246) is for models without AC, is rated at like 440 pounds, and has an installed height of 11". BOTH of these springs say that they have the same spring 'rate' which is like 278.......so I'm wondering if the CC246 which has the taller installed height would work better? I would try it but I don't have the money to do it now .

The messed up thing is that while my buddy was able to get these front springs on the car OK, the Moog CC259 that are supposed to be a DIRECT fit for the rear on the 88-91 civic's/crx's, he couldn't even get them to fit in the car after they were on the shock!!! He said the spring was so stiff that when he tried to compress it a little to bolt it up to the lower control arm it would literally just start lifting the rear of the car instead of compressing the spring!!!

On a good note, the car actually rides pretty nice with the front springs on there.....go figure LOL!!!!

 

front spring rates dont really change the ride feel of the car.

the rears do.

 

So you're telling me that you wouldn't be able to feel a difference between a spring with a 250 spring rate vs a 450 spring rate in the front?

 

you said it...

and i corroborated that the fronts dont make a big difference in ride quality. the rears do.

ive had 450lb springs in the front, no difference. big difference in the rear. i might have even put my 900s in the front once to make this point, i dunno, its been a while.

its because of the weight balance of the car and the leverage of the rear suspension over the CG. the distance of the front suspension to the CG is much less.

 

Just like a truck. Without weight in the back, they get bouncy over bumps. This is amplified with sport suspension.
Same with your car where most of the weight is over the front wheels.

 

Thanks for the clarification guys!

 

Not to keep trolling your threads, but you're $36 lighter in the pocket and back to step one. Didn't see that coming, right? If this had actually been a solution, we've probably have known about it already. The shock thing was proven like 15 years ago. No one tried the springs because springs are plentiful and cheap for your particular application.

Again, just buy the proper spring for the car and be done with it. Or, it appears that you did buy shocks, so just get a generic OEM style coilover kit and be done with it. Higher rates for your heavier motor and height where you want it.

 

Seeing the responses in the other "old" thread, I'll say this.

Many people in your situation, you're not alone. Life is life, everyone got their problems/issues. Here's my real world suggestion (something I'm considering myself)...

Go buy the generic coilovers, cheaper the better. Measure the coilover springs ID and height, then go look for a set of custom springs that match your needs. Companies like Swift and Tanabe come to mind, GC and Eibach I'm sure sell "off the shelf" springs for coilovers too. I'm sure you can find something that has a spring rate similar to stock and gives you the actual height you want too. Then save for some adjustable shocks like Koni Yellow/Tokico Whites/etc. (Otherwise just buy some OEM style replacements). While the savings might not substantial the cost won't set you back all at once. Eventually you'll get to a complete suspension that actually suits your needs.

EDIT: Looks like you have a reasonably fresh set of Tokico blues already.

"Todd00" - I do agree to a certain extent that someone out there may have already tried it but at least it's now documented what the actual outcome was. Not everyone posts all their trial/error stuff on their cars and I'm happy he ("bird00420") was willing to take the plunge and do it.

 

Thanks for your advice AND support 24Ten.....I appreciate it! I've got some stuff I'm trying to sell in the works that will HOPEFULLY go thru soon.....then maybe I can afford to do things the way I would like to

 

You *cannot* measure how a spring will sit and "lower" by the overall length of it, period. That's why OP has two options...buy a spring that has a known specific lowering measurement or buy a set of sleeved coilovers and adjust as needed. ebay coilovers will come with cheap @ss springs, but at least they will be standard springs and have a known height and (possible) known springrate.

As for taking the plunge and trying this...it was still a bad idea. There is absolutely no reason to ghetto fab suspension when *proper* springs are so freaking cheap for the car.

Honestly, I think this entire thread is hilarious. OP is being so cheap and is willing to compromise his suspension just to save about $50. At least it proved entertainment for the day.

 

I'll admit, this was definitely one of the better threads I've seen on here for a while where it wasn't typical bashing.

As for my suggestion, I just looked for a minute and even if someone were to go through with piecing together a generic/namebrand sleeved coilover hybrid as I suggested it will cost nearly as much as just buying a dedicated coilover setup so don't bother.

 

Thanks for the research work! I don't know what I'm going to do quite yet. I'm leaving the springs on the front for now for a couple reasons - 1) I don't have the $ (or time) to change them back; and 2) I actually like having the extra ground clearance in the front The header on my B-swap sits pretty damn low, and Colorado roads are NOT forgiving!!! If I happen to sell some of my stuff (or win the lottery!), I'll try to decide between some GC coilover sleeves/springs, or get the H&R oe sport springs (which were my first choice anyways).