1992 VX Hatch, pretty much bone stock except the added OEM items/options I have installed.

So I've got some new tires/wheels for this spring and my car pulls pretty good on the road and get some decent vibrations around 70 (wheels/tires are balanced). I was hoping to get all the alignment related items inspected/replaced. I'm more familiar with trucks, having worked on them mostly. This is what I've gathered so far on the alignment items.

Inner/Outer tie rods and the upper/lower ball joints. Are there any other parts that would affect the alignment?

I also want to get the energy suspension master bushing set and replace the the bushings as I work on the car, so I'm not sure if any of them would have a slight affect on the alignment items as well.

I want to get it all the alignment related items inspected/replaced before I get the car aligned and put the new tires on.

The vehicle is my DD and it has 271k on it. Still running well and getting phenomenal mileage. Thank you anyone for input, it is greatly appreciated.

 

Bushings, tie rods, ball joints, arms, and any other suspension component except shocks (unless they are a different geometry altogether) will affect alignment on this car.

Stay away from polyurethane suspension bushings...it's a bad idea. Try a hard rubber bushing set like hard race. Just make sure you clock the bushings and tighten them only at ride height.

 

Thanks for the info. I will take a good look when I change the oil this week sometime.

Now you have my curiosity as to why not the polyurethane bushing sets?

 

Poly bushings are a bad compromise of harshness and response. They don't respond like a pillowball bushing/bearing...but they make the car feel like it crashes into every small bump.

They also wear out alarmingly fast. The bolting/loading locations start to oval out over time.

The rear trailing arm bushings need WAY more articulation than the poly bushings allow. So this bushing especially will wear extremely fast and make the chassis feel weird.

If you do bushings once...you won't likely look forward to doing them again lol. Rubber is the way to go on a street car.

 

Thanks. I don't look forward to doing them anyways. haha.

Is hard race what you recommend then or is there another you would recommend over them?

I'm in to doing something once and doing it right that time.

 

Yes, hard race makes a good setup. Or..just buy new ones as needed from honda. www.bernardiparts.com is a good site for honda parts. Your originals lasted almost 300k miles and might even still be good....so...can't complain about the quality of the factory bushings.

 

There is an alternative to hardrace, look in to suja1.

 

Thank you for all the info and help. I think I have enough to go on until I can get my hands on the car. I'm sure a couple questions will pop up once that happens.

 

I need bushings too mine are pretty torn up. I want aftermarket that can take more of a beating than factory bushings, is there any suggestions besides suja1 and hard race for my desired application?

 

Thread jack!

JK, have at it. I don't mind when my threads can help people out.

 

You're not a fan of suja or hard race? Recommendations are easier when you reveal what you're looking for/trying to avoid.

 

I like your attitude live4soccor, I figured since I need new bushings, that can survive me, and ya'l were talking about bushings that I might as well ask. I was on the highway and my car wasn't happy about it! Shaking real bad.

@b serious. I dont know either of those brands plus I'm new to civics

honestly i think I need bushings that can handle hill jumps.

 

Maybe just 50mph 90 degree turns and bumpy roads

 

Lulz. Even if you think you're driving is that badass, bushings are still the least of your problems... but I'll vouch for the shittiness of Jersey roads.

The Hardrace stuff is a pretty good product. I haven't used the PIC/Suja1 variant, but they are a pretty similar product and S1 is a pretty stand-up company. I wouldn't hesitate to buy them if I was in the market.

 

I don't see what is wrong with the stock ones as mentioned earlier. B serious makes a good point about them. They lasted that long and did just great along the way. Unless you are going to be on the track then it is likely unnecessary.

 

Yeah seriously. We're not ****** mind readers. If you don't wanna go with what was suggested than you must have something else in mind, so speak of it and we'll tell what its best suit for.

 

PCI/KPM spherical bearing will top every synth compound/rubber but are short lived I have the compliance,FLCA,RLCA and FUCA on my car spherical, IF you only track your car these are worth looking into but they are alot more price wise and need to be maintained regularly.

 

Lol...idk what to say bud. The hard race or suja1 bushings are heavier duty than stock and are hard rubber...so they'll take a beating.

With any rubber non floating bushing...it's important to install and CLOCK them correctly.

 

Highly doubt that D-series is gonna make it up the hill before you can jump it.

 

You wanna make sharp 90 degree turns, change out the rack and pinion gear to a civic type r, get stiffer suspension and sway bars, add strut bars to front and rear and have at it. You're gonna like the 90 degree turns, but you're not gonna like how your cars gonna..........flip over at that 90 degree turn.

 

^ hahahahahaha

 

except it didnt roll over. I would say its about 70 degrees, then 80 degrees, then 90 degrees. Most of that road I was around 75 in third.. Maybe as slow as 45 MPH around the third big turn.



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I still don't know how to do that correctly on a phone

 

Right...........good luck with that. Since rubber bushings don't seem to be on your "A list" tha you might as well go no bushings at all and just straight weld that **** to your car.

 

I bet I would end up braking the welds

 

The solution is easy. Just get a car that's actually designed for track style driving.