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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 07:51 AM
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Which intake manifold is better for the b18c1?
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 10:25 AM
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Default Re: Which intake manifold is better? (whiterice42019)

blah blah blah.... it depends what your set up is... Skunk2 is good for all motor and the JG one is good for boost. Also I DO NOT think you can use a stock Honda throttle body on the JG one.
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all motor
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 11:48 AM
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skunk2 for all motor

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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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If you're going to add your vote, then please explain WHY. I'm hoping it's because of personal experience or some credible dynos.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 12:56 PM
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From hanging out @ IB....all the lsvtec, gsr, etc turbo setups pushing 400+whp use JG. But Jeff and my mechanic there recommend Skunk2 all motor.

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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 01:26 PM
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-what I've heard is that the SKUNK 2 manifold is ****...
-You can get more power out of a stock intake manifold, with a little bit of work put into it...
-thats what I've HEARD from some experienced people...
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 01:32 PM
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-what I've heard is that the SKUNK 2 manifold is ****...
-You can get more power out of a stock intake manifold, with a little bit of work put into it...
-thats what I've HEARD from some experienced people...
So the factory ITR manifold must be **** too, because that's what your really buying anyways...

This is why you should keep you "I heard" comments to yourself. Only facts need be presented here.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 01:33 PM
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Skunk 2
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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-what I've heard is that the SKUNK 2 manifold is ****...
-You can get more power out of a stock intake manifold, with a little bit of work put into it...
-thats what I've HEARD from some experienced people...


Exactly the kind of **** that does no good.

If it's just for a basically stock B16a then yes I'd say that the Skunk2/JG manifold would be a waste. It was me who posted about a really bad-*** B16A build-up from Mike K that specifically LACKED a Skunk2/ITR manifold because without the cams and headwork it doesn't do much good in the end.

...but the debate here is Skunk2 vs. JG.

I'd like to know what this would be for? Motor? Mods?
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 01:40 PM
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skunk2 manifold is pretty much an itr mani in a sense right? just made to fit the gsr. Is the b16 IM similar to an itr? I would think it makes more of a difference on a b18c1. Well...I guess when I get my IM...i'll dyno before and after. Then I'll post results.

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Default Re: Which intake manifold is better? (RK)

Skunk2 manifold is 100% identical to the ITR one. Only diff like you said is that the GS-R model has a different bolt pattern to fit the P72 head.

What motor is this for?

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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 01:48 PM
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I'd like to know what this would be for? Motor? Mods?

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Well the poll question asks which is better for the b18c1
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 01:54 PM
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Sorry, I rarely give two ***** about polls.



Well it's still too vague.

Mods?

This has been covered so many times it's not even funny. Try the search function perhaps?

The manifold sucks if all you do is bolt it on. The VTEC is too low and the tranny gearing in the GS-R sucks if you get a re-chipped P28 to move the VTEC up to match the manifold style. It will come very close to or drop out of VTEC in shifts with the stocker GS-R tranny and a 5800rpm VTEC point with a re-chipped ECU.

As a bolt on the Skunk2 does suck. If you have cams and a good ECU program and a B16a or ITR tranny then yes it might be worthwhile.

I'd keep the GS-R manifold and try to make that work.

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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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blah blah blah.... it depends what your set up is... Skunk2 is good for all motor and the JG one is good for boost. Also I DO NOT think you can use a stock Honda throttle body on the JG one.
I run the JG/E IM, and yes you can use the stock TB. I just wanted everybody to know that... I didn't vote because I haven't used both IM's so I can't compare the two of them. and I cant really say if the IM I'm using is better than the stock one because when I upgraded to the JG, I also switched cams and valve train, so its hard to say if it helped or not.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 02:24 PM
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-what I've heard is that the SKUNK 2 manifold is ****...
-You can get more power out of a stock intake manifold, with a little bit of work put into it...
-thats what I've HEARD from some experienced people...

So the factory ITR manifold must be **** too, because that's what your really buying anyways...

This is why you should keep you "I heard" comments to yourself. Only facts need be presented here.
-hmmm, since you're from san diego just go to carlsbad one of these weekends and let the people I heard it from explain it to you (if its even important)...
-hit them up, they are cool.. LUCKY racing from L.A...
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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Default Re: Which intake manifold is better? (dut619)

I keep seeing "do a little work on the stock GSR manifold". What kind of work are you guys talking about?
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 05:19 PM
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Default Re: Which intake manifold is better? (fred97gle)

I had a skunk2 on my old GSR and it was a definate improvement.
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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 05:35 PM
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-hmmm, since you're from san diego just go to carlsbad one of these weekends and let the people I heard it from explain it to you (if its even important)...
-hit them up, they are cool.. LUCKY racing from L.A...
Gladly, but carlsbad raceway sucks and I don't drag race because it's GAY! AUTO-X OWNZ.........

Maybe you friends know something a multi-million dollar company doesn't know, but for now, the results speak for themselves. The skunk2 manifold on a GSR works, and provides more HP over stock.

(PS, never heard of Lucky racing from LA, the only people I know are Ben Ma, Paulice, and RJ Simrock from AEBS, Levell from Engineuity, and a host of other import racers from across the country)

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Old Oct 29, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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-well I know LAVELLE pretty well... we are from the same crew...
-LUCKY racing has a few 11 second all motor cars
-there was no need for being an ******* like most of these ********* on this site...
-btw: im not saying a STOCK manifold out performs a skunk.. im saying a STOCK one has more potential... call up Lavelle and ask him also, he is one of the many that told me this....
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 09:00 AM
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The mods on the b18c1 are skunk 2 stage 2 cams skunk 2 valves retainers springs
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 09:16 AM
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Default Re: Which intake manifold is better? (whiterice42019)

JG mani is super good for NA... I'm not too find of SK2 parts, esp. the mani. The JG has been proven to have superior gains over SK2. I've seen dynos for both and JG wins all the time.
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 10:54 AM
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Default Re: Which intake manifold is better?

Basically if you choose the Skunk2 manifold because it makes more power for your setup, you're not making enough power.
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Old Oct 30, 2002 | 10:56 AM
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should i go with the JG or skunk 2 for all motor?
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