are the Helms manuals a lot better than, say....they Haynes manuals that you can buy at AutoZone? are they more detailed? or is it just whatever your preferences are?

 

ya...Autozone hayes is like what? 15 bux? My helms was a lil over 70 shipped, heh

 

Helm's is more accurate, detailed, better.

 

the diaghrams will save you almost every time

 

if you think that you will ever be doing in depth tear downs and rebuilds consider the shop manual from Acura. The shop diagnostic manual from acura has very good exploded views.

 

probably won't be doing tear downs...but i would like something that will give me actual pictures and diagrams of procedures...instead of telling me to take the car to my acura dealer. does helms tell you all about valve adjustments and stuff like that?

 

Helms service manuals are the BEST.

 

no question.. get the Helms..

take this from someone who has BOTH (Helms and Haynes)..

I first went the Haynes route because hey.. it was $15...

I found for basic things it'll get you by.. but if you've NEVER worked on a car before.. it kind of leaves you hanging since its mostly text (and not accurate at all times) and not that many relevant/helpful pictures... theres not many exploded diagrams of how parts go together.. it will just tell you like "take apart all the nuts and lift out the part" and your thinking "this is a manual?" no $hit I could have figured you take off all the bolts to remove the part... anyway its not that detailed, not always accurate.. not many pix, exploded diagrams.. its about 1/4 the size of the Helms manual....

after already buying a Haynes.. I finally bought a Helms... first you think damn $70 thats a lot.. but then when you get it in the mail and see how detailed it is, all the illustrations, diagrams, detailed test/diagnostics, install procedures, etc... its well worth the price.... Helms

now my Haynes usually just sits there collecting dust.. I hardly use it..

http://www.helminc.com

 

haynes SUCKS ***!!!
believe me i have one.

 

this is why i bought my helms. Everyone says that they are the best. Mine has never failed me if that tell you anything.

 

Helms . Its what the they use at the dealers. I have seen the other kind of service manuals for other cars. So generic and so few pictures. I really like pictures. Get it, it is worth it's weight in gold.

 

I have a Chilton book published by Haynes. I give it the

 

Haynes got me through a motor swap . Helms is much better.

 

The Helm's is an anatomical encyclopedia collection. The Hayne's is a pre-school coloring book.

...'Nuff said.


[Modified by P, 7:31 AM 10/29/2002]

 

 

I have a Haynes and it's cheap for a reason! I'm gonna buy a Helm's before I do my swap for sure...

 

yea, i have both the helms and the haynes. well, i had a haynes, i used it to wipe my *** last time when we had to make a pit stop, hehe, well worth my $15 for it!