Mugen N1 ECU OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ??
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Mugen N1 ECU OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ??
I have a 00 ITR with:
-stock R internals, but thinkning about Skunk2 cams and valvetrain.
- JDM P73 ecu
-I/H/E
-cam gears
-testpipe
-FPR
-no PS and AC
-shaved crankpulley
-Toda flywheel
-would I be better off getting a Mugen N1 ECU ($700) OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ($600)??
thanks for all the input.
-stock R internals, but thinkning about Skunk2 cams and valvetrain.
- JDM P73 ecu
-I/H/E
-cam gears
-testpipe
-FPR
-no PS and AC
-shaved crankpulley
-Toda flywheel
-would I be better off getting a Mugen N1 ECU ($700) OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ($600)??
thanks for all the input.
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Re: Mugen N1 ECU OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ?? (utboi)
Have you run the car at the dragstrip yet?
I would say JDM P73 and VAFC over a set ecu......each motor is different and the some dyno time with the VAFC should prove to be good.
I think Toda B's (road course) or JUN 3's (drag) over Skunk stuff but JMO
I have an Si ecu with a VAFC right now and it gets the job done for right now....wiring up the P73 pretty soon then hitting the dyno up to tune it (Spring time)
I would say JDM P73 and VAFC over a set ecu......each motor is different and the some dyno time with the VAFC should prove to be good.
I think Toda B's (road course) or JUN 3's (drag) over Skunk stuff but JMO
I have an Si ecu with a VAFC right now and it gets the job done for right now....wiring up the P73 pretty soon then hitting the dyno up to tune it (Spring time)
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Re: Mugen N1 ECU OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ?? (SergEK)
Mugen n-1 $700? i dont think so.... i think its more like 1,100 or 1,400.
and the Mugen works great. Stock ecu + vafc doesnt mess with timing.
Mugen changes up timing and fuel. also u dont have to dyno, cuz not everybody has access to a dyno.
Down side with Mugen N-1, i never found the rev limit? or it was ridiculously high.
swapping stock typeR computer with Mugen was a NIGHT and DAY difference. VTEC engagement was louder and the sound of the car was more fierce with the Mugen. Also pulled way harder.. only thing is that with the A/C on the car would die at idle. (i also had 4-1 mugen header)
Running WITH a catalytic converter my car could not pass smog emissions with the MUGEN - that gives you an idea of how it radically alters the car performance
Mugen also defeats your o2 sensor so you dont get a check engine light with your test pipe.
MUGEN is track proven to work - Comptech Type R integras use them in the Speed channel touring car series.
so.. its up to u
and the Mugen works great. Stock ecu + vafc doesnt mess with timing.
Mugen changes up timing and fuel. also u dont have to dyno, cuz not everybody has access to a dyno.
Down side with Mugen N-1, i never found the rev limit? or it was ridiculously high.
swapping stock typeR computer with Mugen was a NIGHT and DAY difference. VTEC engagement was louder and the sound of the car was more fierce with the Mugen. Also pulled way harder.. only thing is that with the A/C on the car would die at idle. (i also had 4-1 mugen header)
Running WITH a catalytic converter my car could not pass smog emissions with the MUGEN - that gives you an idea of how it radically alters the car performance
Mugen also defeats your o2 sensor so you dont get a check engine light with your test pipe.
MUGEN is track proven to work - Comptech Type R integras use them in the Speed channel touring car series.
so.. its up to u
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Re: Mugen N1 ECU OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ?? (23psi4age)
Down side with Mugen N-1, i never found the rev limit? or it was ridiculously high.
only thing is that with the A/C on the car would die at idle.
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Re: Mugen N1 ECU OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ?? (mugenmike)
Down side with Mugen N-1, i never found the rev limit? or it was ridiculously high. 9100 RPM's
only thing is that with the A/C on the car would die at idle.King Motorsports has an easy fix for this problem
only thing is that with the A/C on the car would die at idle.King Motorsports has an easy fix for this problem
Knows all about Mugen!! eric
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Re: Mugen N1 ECU OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ?? (rainmanEK)
If you can get the Mugen ecu for $700 then it is worth it. Otherwise a chipped OBDI ecu plus wiring harness will cost about the same and some of the chipped ECU's are questionable. Unless you get it from Kenji!!!!
I picked up the Mugen N1 Ecu for about $350 so it was a steal that I couldn't pass up. I have also heard that the real Mugen ecu uses a faster processor than the OBDI ecus.
hth
I picked up the Mugen N1 Ecu for about $350 so it was a steal that I couldn't pass up. I have also heard that the real Mugen ecu uses a faster processor than the OBDI ecus.
hth
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Re: Mugen N1 ECU OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ?? (rainmanEK)
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Down side with Mugen N-1, i never found the rev limit? or it was ridiculously high. 9100 RPM's
only thing is that with the A/C on the car would die at idle.King Motorsports has an easy fix for this problem
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yup he sure does.
but i was too scared to find the Fuel Cutoff, becuase ive revved it like right to 9400-9500 (according to the stock tachometer) with no fuel cut off. i think the stock tach has a +300-400rpm calibration, so i was only doin like 9000rpm-9100rpm, but still, thats scary!! i never hit the rev limit before
did kingmotorsports just figure out the a/c fix? cuz like 3 years ago when i had my car i never heard of the a/c fix. oh well.
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Down side with Mugen N-1, i never found the rev limit? or it was ridiculously high. 9100 RPM's
only thing is that with the A/C on the car would die at idle.King Motorsports has an easy fix for this problem
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MugenMike Knows all about Mugen!!
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yup he sure does.
but i was too scared to find the Fuel Cutoff, becuase ive revved it like right to 9400-9500 (according to the stock tachometer) with no fuel cut off. i think the stock tach has a +300-400rpm calibration, so i was only doin like 9000rpm-9100rpm, but still, thats scary!! i never hit the rev limit before
did kingmotorsports just figure out the a/c fix? cuz like 3 years ago when i had my car i never heard of the a/c fix. oh well.
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Re: Mugen N1 ECU OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ?? (23psi4age)
Mugen n-1 $700? i dont think so.... i think its more like 1,100 or 1,400.
and the Mugen works great. Stock ecu + vafc doesnt mess with timing.
Mugen changes up timing and fuel. also u dont have to dyno, cuz not everybody has access to a dyno.
Down side with Mugen N-1, i never found the rev limit? or it was ridiculously high.
swapping stock typeR computer with Mugen was a NIGHT and DAY difference. VTEC engagement was louder and the sound of the car was more fierce with the Mugen. Also pulled way harder.. only thing is that with the A/C on the car would die at idle. (i also had 4-1 mugen header)
Running WITH a catalytic converter my car could not pass smog emissions with the MUGEN - that gives you an idea of how it radically alters the car performance
Mugen also defeats your o2 sensor so you dont get a check engine light with your test pipe.
MUGEN is track proven to work - Comptech Type R integras use them in the Speed channel touring car series.
so.. its up to u
and the Mugen works great. Stock ecu + vafc doesnt mess with timing.
Mugen changes up timing and fuel. also u dont have to dyno, cuz not everybody has access to a dyno.
Down side with Mugen N-1, i never found the rev limit? or it was ridiculously high.
swapping stock typeR computer with Mugen was a NIGHT and DAY difference. VTEC engagement was louder and the sound of the car was more fierce with the Mugen. Also pulled way harder.. only thing is that with the A/C on the car would die at idle. (i also had 4-1 mugen header)
Running WITH a catalytic converter my car could not pass smog emissions with the MUGEN - that gives you an idea of how it radically alters the car performance
Mugen also defeats your o2 sensor so you dont get a check engine light with your test pipe.
MUGEN is track proven to work - Comptech Type R integras use them in the Speed channel touring car series.
so.. its up to u
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Re: Mugen N1 ECU OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ?? (23psi4age)
did kingmotorsports just figure out the a/c fix? cuz like 3 years ago when i had my car i never heard of the a/c fix. oh well.
A/C back in my car and they gave me a sheet that shows the fix.
9100 RPM's
On a stock ITR valvetrain? Is this even safe......valve float?
On a stock ITR valvetrain? Is this even safe......valve float?
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Re: Mugen N1 ECU OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ?? (mugenmike)
Mugen n-1 $700? i dont think so.... i think its more like 1,100 or 1,400.
and the Mugen works great. Stock ecu + vafc doesnt mess with timing.
Mugen changes up timing and fuel. also u dont have to dyno, cuz not everybody has access to a dyno.
Down side with Mugen N-1, i never found the rev limit? or it was ridiculously high.
swapping stock typeR computer with Mugen was a NIGHT and DAY difference. VTEC engagement was louder and the sound of the car was more fierce with the Mugen. Also pulled way harder.. only thing is that with the A/C on the car would die at idle. (i also had 4-1 mugen header)
Running WITH a catalytic converter my car could not pass smog emissions with the MUGEN - that gives you an idea of how it radically alters the car performance
Mugen also defeats your o2 sensor so you dont get a check engine light with your test pipe.
MUGEN is track proven to work - Comptech Type R integras use them in the Speed channel touring car series.
so.. its up to u
and the Mugen works great. Stock ecu + vafc doesnt mess with timing.
Mugen changes up timing and fuel. also u dont have to dyno, cuz not everybody has access to a dyno.
Down side with Mugen N-1, i never found the rev limit? or it was ridiculously high.
swapping stock typeR computer with Mugen was a NIGHT and DAY difference. VTEC engagement was louder and the sound of the car was more fierce with the Mugen. Also pulled way harder.. only thing is that with the A/C on the car would die at idle. (i also had 4-1 mugen header)
Running WITH a catalytic converter my car could not pass smog emissions with the MUGEN - that gives you an idea of how it radically alters the car performance
Mugen also defeats your o2 sensor so you dont get a check engine light with your test pipe.
MUGEN is track proven to work - Comptech Type R integras use them in the Speed channel touring car series.
so.. its up to u
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Re: Mugen N1 ECU OR JDM P73 ecu & VAFC ?? (SergEK)
9100 RPM's
On a stock ITR valvetrain? Is this even safe......valve float?
On a stock ITR valvetrain? Is this even safe......valve float?
Stock is fine. Its not like Mugen sells anything better than stock anyway.
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